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Yeah, if this must continue to happen (at least there are no personal attacks this time), take it to PM.

And hedo, he was sighing because of the situation (the debate), not because of Izawa's good playing.

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How do you know?! :hmph:. I want to hear it straight from the horse's mouth :D

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Now Now, I don't think we should do anything like that. The only reason we have a forum is so we can debate and share opinions. While I don't enjoy hearing him shit on TJ, I respect his opinions.

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No, Choobies, shes talking about certain posters being ass-cocks, not the normal "arguing with Jihad" stuff.

And yes, Frecklegirl understood why I sighed, Hedo. Im sighing cuz I was reaching to re-rail the discussion <_<

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I'd say more "certain posters [ALL INVOLVED] getting more personal in their debates than the usual new-TJ-vs-old stuff" is what should be taken to PM.

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My apologies, sometimes you just read what you want a post to say.

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Most people don't have objectives to people expressing their opinions here. It's just when one person happens to leave a trail of destruction when he confronts the opposing opinion.

Op2's post was in no means an attempt at a solid discussion. He

From the wikipedia article for 'trolling'.

Looking at the first quote, you can see that it isn't the points put forward that is the problem. It is the intent by which they are spoken. People might not agree with Jihad, or anybody else's opinions on Killer Tune and OSCA, but they are usually honest and they contribute to the discussion, without attempting to twist it into an argument.

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okay, back to the egoless world of NEWS:

credits have finally been attached to Killer Tune on kronekodow,

Killer Tune is lyrics by Ringo, composition by Izawa
BB. Queen is entirely Ukigumo
Karada is lyrics by Ringo, composition by Ukigumo

I was under the impression Karada was an entirely Ringo song, guess not...oh well, only two more weeks to go more or less

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Nice! Can't wait for more Ukigumo bashing. :B

But naw, I'm excited to hear the b-sides (cause I'm one of the chumps who thinks he likes Killer Tune ;)).

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me too, hahah.

I think the largest disappointment for me, which turned into great adoration, was the shift from KZK to Gunjou Biyori.

I don't care what people say about the recent work, it still gets me moving. I don't listen to Ringo and TJ very much, they remain my favorite artist, but its like a fine art, I don't bring it out so often so that I can remain unspoiled and really enjoy it then and again.

I think the problem for many on this forum is disensitization and especially overexposure.