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frecklegirl 2007.04.02 12:00 PM

[SR] 1999.10.27 - Koufukuron (CD) [Single] {Re-Release}
 
幸福論 (Koufukuron)


01. 幸福論 (Koufukuron)
02. すべりだい (Suberidai)
03. 時が暴走する (Toki ga Bousou Suru)
Total Playtime: 12:49

Retail Availability: Amazon.co.jp, CD Japan, HMV Japan

Note: The two tracks (Koufukuron and Suberidai) already featured in the original release, were digitally remastered for this re-release.

kuro_neko 2007.12.13 09:35 PM

has anyone noticed the difference in mastering between this and the initial release of the single? If you don't own both they have both in iTunes music store Japan. The original release sounds so smooth whereas this one sounds louder and more...crunchy...almost low fi? I thought it was my cd at first or something and was ready to buy another and then I checked the music store and the preview they have sounds the same.

Why is that? Hmmm....I wonder if Ringo wanted to make it sound more "rock" to compensate for what the record execs forced her to do (supposedly) haha

either that or someone was lazy

Glathannus 2007.12.13 10:05 PM

I commented about that a couple times back in Ringo Jihen, but yeah, it's worth mentioning again, and I'm surprised you noticed it too, especially if you're using AACs.

I think you're mostly on the money, except the AAC format colors the sound in its own way, so some of the characteristics you're talking about have been exaggerated or minimized by AAC's own sonic bias. In using lossless, absolutely there's a difference between the two, though I wouldn't quite describe it the same way you've indicated.

But the re-release was definitely a remaster, even if an unannounced one. It's kind of a baffling concept for Americans because studios will remaster the shit out of everything just so they can re-release it and ADVERTISE it as a remaster. It's one of the most abused fads in recent years, but Japan remasters things all the time (like my Ghost In The Shell CD box) and declares NOTHING about it.

kuro_neko 2007.12.13 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glathannus (Post 22039)
I commented about that a couple times back in Ringo Jihen, but yeah, it's worth mentioning again, and I'm surprised you noticed it too, especially if you're using AACs.

I think you're mostly on the money, except the AAC format colors the sound in its own way, so some of the characteristics you're talking about have been exaggerated or minimized by AAC's own sonic bias. In using lossless, absolutely there's a difference between the two, though I wouldn't quite describe it the same way you've indicated.

But the re-release was definitely a remaster, even if an unannounced one. It's kind of a baffling concept for Americans because studios will remaster the shit out of everything just so they can re-release it and ADVERTISE it as a remaster. It's one of the most abused fads in recent years, but Japan remasters things all the time (like my Ghost In The Shell CD box) and declares NOTHING about it.

well the original was ripped to MP3 not using iTunes and I like to rip a lot of my ringo material lossless because I can't carry the cds overseas with me. takes up space but its worth it in the long run.

but my god, the remaster doesn't sound like a remaster, it sounds backwards, like the audio on the original sounds much smoother, unless it was ringo's intention to make it sound this way.

Orenji 2010.05.15 03:02 PM

Maybe this has been posted before, but I just realized "Toki ga Bousou Suru" samples part of Mozart's "Piano Sonata No. 11 in A major, K. 331 - Andante grazioso"! I was watching LOST's episode 3x10 - "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead" when that Mozart's song started to sound as the BGM, and I was like "what?! Ringo on LOST?" hahaha!

Give it a listen (it doesn't allow me to post the video, idkw):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe9-ck_KAR4

Cinders 2010.05.15 03:59 PM

lol i just bought this single on ebay and it arrived two days ago :D

Scribble R 2010.05.16 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orenji (Post 69178)
Maybe this has been posted before, but I just realized "Toki ga Bousou Suru" samples part of Mozart's "Piano Sonata No. 11 in A major, K. 331 - Andante grazioso"! I was watching LOST's episode 3x10 - "Tricia Tanaka Is Dead" when that Mozart's song started to sound as the BGM, and I was like "what?! Ringo on LOST?" hahaha!

Give it a listen (it doesn't allow me to post the video, idkw):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe9-ck_KAR4

Oh, neat. Also, that made me want to listen to Toki ga... again so I youtubed it and found this RSR version I wasn't aware of (I'm sure you are):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qQTNKLWwXQ

Orenji 2010.05.16 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scribble R (Post 69184)
Oh, neat. Also, that made me want to listen to Toki ga... again so I youtubed it and found this RSR version I wasn't aware of (I'm sure you are):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qQTNKLWwXQ

Yeah, that was one of the very first lives I watched/listened to by SR!! Really fantastic... Oh, Toki is such a great, creepy and special song... Love it.


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