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Tokyo Jihad 2007.04.28 09:48 PM

I hate the Breakfast Club
 
I don't mean it in a "ooh, I think its totally shit" way, and I don't mean it in a "me vs Wes Anderson" kinda way. I don't "hate" it, I am compelled to watch it every time is played on tv, and it just gets me upset to the point where I say "graah, I hate this movie.

Let me exprain.

First, the movies pretty damn unrealistic. Emilio Estevez' character I can buy, I guess. Molly Ringwalds a fuckin bitch, and I buy that too. The rest I have problems with. First off, everyone of the "defense force" always comes in and goes all "bu bu, Judd Nelson was cool." Yyeah, he had some funny lines and all...but first off, in real life, he woulda been all over Ally Sheedy. Maybe he'd try Molly Ringwald, but after enduring a bitch-fest for a few seconds, he'd drop that idea -- but more on Ally Sheedy's total hotness later. My second prob with Judd Nelson is that his whole "hard ass" schtick goes straight out the window in that scene where the principal (or whatever) locks him in that small room and calls him out. What does Judd do? He wimpers! lame. If he were a true hard-ass, he woulldn't have hit the guy, he would have stood his ground -- but he woulda done it not cuz hes a puss, but so the principal can't use the "self defense" defense. Judd doesn't give us that hint, so I gotta assume that by his wimpering lip in that scene, hes a poser.

Nextly, Anthony Micheal Hall. Now, Im a nerd, so I can relate a bit more. Granted, I'm a better all-round nerd than his character, but still. Now, I don't know bout most, but I've never gotten high before. However, when Judd whips out the doobies, Anthony Micheal Hall is down with that. I dunno, I'd expect him to be a bit apprehensive at first. (Also, wtf is wit that shot where there stoned an the glass door behind Emilio breaks? Is that a trip or what?). Secondly, hes a fuckin pussy too. What nerd in hs would parade about suicide? I know its a miserable existence in general, and back then you didn't have the internet (and thus no internet porn) but you still have plenty of your stupid crap to get off on. And if a nerd was to do it, I think it shouldn't be with a gun (to the head.) If you're a nerd, your brain is the only part of you thats valuable! Get your cat to scratch your wrist and pretend to hide from your friends if they ask, loser. No wonder hes the guy that ended up without any tail at the end of the flick --like a true nerd .

Now Ally Sheedy. Let me just say that Ally Sheedy is smokin in this movie. And in hs she definitely woulda end up being a friend of mine, looks a side, because that's the kinda riff-raff I cater to. Now then, she holds up character-wise throughout the whole movie. BUT thematically, at the end with her character, this is essentially WHY I get pissed at the end. When Molly Ringwald gives her a make over, essentially "Molly Ringwald"ing her up.
Every time I hear her say "You look so much prettier without that black around your eyes" I give her the finger. They turn the super-cool-fox Ally Sheedy into a middle of the road Molly Ringwald. And all THAT says is "hey, if you want the jock, Emilio, to mack up on you, you have to supress your true unique self and take the guise of popular girls!" -- GAY. Totally 80's, thank god that mess is over. (Too bad 00's seem to think the same...)

freackled 2007.04.28 10:50 PM

I'm assuming comedy central's airing of it tonight inspired this topic?

YES, I completely agree with you about Ally Sheedy. It's always been my biggest complaint about the movie.

CatchFiveBats 2007.04.29 06:31 AM

Yeah, it was on Comedy Central last night. I saw about 5 minutes of it before I went to sleep (the scene where they all sit around and bitch and cry...it was the bit where EE talks about he and his dad's relationship).

Also, I think it's an okay movie. Who gives a fuck if it's realistic...it's an entertaining watch, and that's all that matters to me.

Side Note: Oddly enough, the first time I saw this was in high school during a sociology class. That teacher kicked ass.

Tokyo Jihad 2007.04.29 07:19 AM

==>
KHAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!

(and yes I saw Comedy Central showing yesterday afternoon AND evening)

Cosmo! 2007.04.29 07:22 AM

Haha...I love The Breakfast Club even though I can't relate to anyone in the movie. Of course, cheesy '80s movies are my favorites, so maybe I'm biased.

And yes, Claire really shittified Allison with that make-over of hers.

CatchFiveBats 2007.04.29 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cosmo! (Post 3271)
Of course, cheesy '80s movies are my favorites, so maybe I'm biased.

Why else would you watch an '80s movies except for the cheese? Then again, I'm all about stuff that's "so bad it's good", and I think the '80s are the epitome of that, so I'm probably just as biased as you are. XD

natsume 2007.04.29 07:41 AM

"Purple Rain" was on last night. I don't think I'd seen it for maybe 20 years? I'm an oldy, so that was a high school movie for me. It's amazing how bad it is, the acting and the clothes, horrible.

Prince, of course, is amazingly good, when he is performing and not trying to act, and that is still a great album, with great songs, but the movie sucks ass.

It is still worth watching though, for every reason I cited above.

"When Doves Cry" is really one of the classic 80's pop songs.

Nimh 2007.04.29 09:32 AM

"When you grow up....your heart dies....."

That's the theme of the movie, and teenagers swallow it whole. I know I did.

I can quote every line of dialogue; it's well-written and well-played. And when you learn about filmmaking, you realize this movie's also brilliantly edited.

BUT.....turning Ally Sheedy into a mute brunette Avon lady at the end was a total disaster!!

Tokyo Jihad 2007.04.29 09:48 AM

Brilliantly edited, I don't quite agree with. Above-competently edited, sure =P
I shudder to say its a good movie, just because of what it seems to say with Ally Sheedy and Anthony Micheal Hall's character's at the end (disguise as the norm, and do our work.) But it certainly is not a mess, its structurally and filmkaking wise great. Aand, y'know even script-wise until the end. I just don't get why they made those decisions. It seems to go completely aback all the work done in the last 90 mins.

Jer 2007.04.29 11:14 AM

Wow, I never want to read that much about the Breakfast Club ever again.


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