Shiina Ringo via Tokyo Jihen, or Tokyo Jihen via Shiina Ringo?

[D.K.Liu]

He he... no need to hold back, I've lurked in the forum long enough to know that I am probably in the minority here. In some ways, I'm quite interested in your derisive comments.

[cjhobbies00]

Muhahaa.

Trust me, it's not at all interesting. The same old "Die you sick f*ck! Rot in hell you deaf tasteless SOB, I hope the hounds of hell take their time ripping the flesh from your bones!!!"

Same old same old.

[MBF]

Originally Posted by NIMH Rat

1. Which group are you in?
B. SECOND GROUP: someone who became a fan of Tokyo Jihen by way of Shiina Ringo (SR came first)


2. Let's parse out some differences.
B. SECOND GROUP: Would you really identify as a "fan" of TJ or as someone "tolerable" of TJ or as someone "morally and viscerally opposed" to TJ?
- I'm a fanboy. I still prefer Ringo's solo stuff, about Jihen, but I'm still a big fan.


3. How do you feel?
B. SECOND GROUP: that you sort of wish you were in the first group?
-I get your point, but I'd say "no". I think it's amazingly interesting being able to watch that whole development regarding Shiina-san's music... so I'm glad I already knew her, when she was non-TJ.

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[fluffiethesock]

Originally Posted by D.K.Liu

I've lurked in the forum long enough to know that I am probably in the minority here. \

Just remember, while it may be the minority here, it's not necessarily the case everywhere else. Of course musical preference is going to vary, but as I've said in the past my Japanese friend from Fukui told me that she and her friends (her words: "I think everyone...") love Tokyo Jihen but found solo Ringo annoying (probably mainly her persona). If you look on Youtube or Last.fm or a Japanese fan site, you'll see people praising Phase 2. The people here certainly aren't the only ones who prefer Phase 1 and who want Ringo to go back to her old style, but they may be the most dedicated to it.


(I don't know why I've been so zealous for Phase 2 lately... well, aside from the fact that I love them)

[cjhobbies00]

The professional term for us "people" is zealots.

[fluffiethesock]

Whoa, that's weird. I just switched my "dedicated" to "zealous." We're like brain buddies, jhobs!

[Tokyo Jihad]

Hiramo 4 president

[Scribble R]

Originally Posted by fluffiethesock

Just remember, while it may be the minority here, it's not necessarily the case everywhere else. Of course musical preference is going to vary, but as I've said in the past my Japanese friend from Fukui told me that she and her friends (her words: "I think everyone...") love Tokyo Jihen but found solo Ringo annoying (probably mainly her persona). If you look on Youtube or Last.fm or a Japanese fan site, you'll see people praising Phase 2.

I suppose that to many Japanese people, Phase 2 Shiina Ringo is as talented a jazz vocalist as Ella Fitzgerald =P The only reason I don't think Tokyo Jihen Phase 2 are all that special is because there are PLENTY of musicians in the west that do what they're doing, but do it much better. Phase 2 is just an OK band. Solo Shiina Ringo (Ignoring the Alanis Morisette comparisons with MM) was at least a distinctive artist in her own right.

Also, I bet you that if I went to a few random people on the street and ask them what song they prefer out of Mirrorball and Souretsu, or Ramp and Shuukyou, they'd prefer the former each time, because one's easier to listen to for the other.

[Ringo~Bingo]

I'd choose the track that was the most musically interesting over what sounded "easier" so you lose the bet!
Complex songs like Shuukyou & Souretsu are what made me like Shiina to begin with! not the easy stuff like Ramp and so on.

[cjhobbies00]

Originally Posted by fluffiethesock

Whoa, that's weird. I just switched my "dedicated" to "zealous." We're like brain buddies, jhobs!

Yes, it is often said that Hitler and Ghandhi are mirror images of each other.

(Just keeping up with the tone of the thread)