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2014.09.07, 06:39 AM | #21 | |
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Shiina was so big to me during Jihen, the CM and all the like we saw her in, but to every japanese person I know- she went unnoticed. Someone people not knowing a single Jihen song. They knew Honnou though. I feel Utada might be a special case- First Love (which is almost my least favorite work from her) is too culturally embedded for her to not be relevant when she decides to come back. I think Utada even thinks this herself, to be honest. |
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Who cares if she's relevant in Japan, she'll keep making music regardless...
Anyway, new studio album in November according to that site that's always right...
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Yeah, I think we were talking about that article on the 2014 Tour thread. I agree; Ringo is relevant enough to make new music and continue touring. Naturally, her glory days in the mainstream have come to an end. And honestly, if we're talking about how Japan views her NOW, we must first consider how Japan viewed her THEN. A lot of people knew Koko De Kisu Shite and Honnou. A lesser amount of casual music listeners knew a couple of her other singles -- Tsumiki Asobi, Gibs, and Stem. I assume most people didn't check into her beyond that. And she was forgotten by most people who didn't become big fans. I mean, imagine how you would think of Ringo by only hearing Koko De Kisu Shite and Honnou -- ten years ago. Heck, they're so different you may have thought those were different artists singing those songs.
Realistically, there has been a steady decline in sales since Honnou. That's not to say that fans didn't like the newer music. Rather, this is to say that she started falling out of the public's eye after it. As far as Japan's public, Ringo really only had a year or two of mainstream fame. I'd bet Tokyo Jihen boosted her popularity a little bit after KZK. The peak of that popularity, I think, was right after Variety was released. Killer Tune was a moderate hit, wasn't it? But even then, did casual listeners in Japan even realize that the vocalist for Jihen was the girl who wrote Honnou? Now Jihen in gone. And where does Ringo stand? Well, we'll have to see what happens once we get the NEW ALBUM?! |
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The thing about Ringo is that people who don't like any pop music respected her, she was the only modern pop star that a Japanese person in the underground music scene would listen to. Most of my friends from this scene feel the same way I do....they're a lot more hesitant to bring her up and separate her career into OK-Ringo and Not-OK-Ringo. The cut-off time varies from person to person but I think the hipsters have all abandoned her and rightfully so!
She went from referring to us as listeners to calling us fans, and now she addresses us as customers in her interviews. |
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^ I'm sorry, but that just makes me think "BOO FUCKIN HOO" :-p
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Customers is just euphemism for johns.
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