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Old 2009.07.10, 01:38 PM   #41
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Kaban no Nakami's my favorite. Most definitely.
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Old 2009.07.10, 01:49 PM   #42
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I'd ditch Fukushuu, Tsukigime-hime & Sake to Geko. I'd replace them with Kaban no Nakami, Karada & Senkou Shoujo (if that track can be allowed?).
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Old 2009.07.10, 02:01 PM   #43
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Fukushuu was probably one of the better songs on Variety. It had some nice guitar, a good chorus, and sounded sonically interesting throughout the entire song. It stood out too. It doesn't stand up to the rest of her solo work, or Phase 1 Jihen, but I don't really understand why so many people here hate it. I think it's a perfectly decent rock song.

What is a joke to me is that people are actually comparing it to B.B. Queen and saying Queen's better. Not even SOTC saved that steaming pile. It's Ukigumo's single worst contribution to all of Shiina Ringo's career.
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Old 2009.07.10, 02:10 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by Cosmo! View Post
really!? even the Everly Brothers!? and here I was thinking that Elvis Presley and Fats Domino were traditional enka singers.

Ringo can sprinkle in as much amp feedback as she wants to, but it's still not going to convince me that Morphine is in the same straight-ahead rocker vein as Fukushuu or Byoushou Public. OK, so all music is basically relative and every genre borrows from another, right? what I love about Ringo is that she can write a great pop hook and obscure it behind feedback and fuzzy guitars and walls of noise and found sounds and bleeps and blips, but I always hear the pop and jazz beneath it all. does that make sense?
I don't know of you meant to be a cocky douchebag in the first comment, but definitely came off that way. Great job.
No one said that Morphine was in the same vein of rock as Fukushuu, just that it was rock. But you implied that it wasn't rock at all. If you're such an expert on who's rock, then how can you deny Morphine is rock? It not any harder than the songs The Every Brothers or Presley made but it's in its roots rock.

Led Zeppelin is one of the harder artists in rock but they're heavily blues influenced, but no one ever questions their place in the rock genre. Like Ringo, The Smiths are pretty much the kings of pop hooks, but they're always rock. And it goes the same for Ringo on both accounts.
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Old 2009.07.10, 02:21 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by Osiris12345 View Post
What is a joke to me is that people are actually comparing it to B.B. Queen and saying Queen's better. Not even SOTC saved that steaming pile. It's Ukigumo's single worst contribution to all of Shiina Ringo's career.
B.B. Queen single version isn't just Uki's worst contribution, it's arguably the worst thing she's ever released. I think the SOTC version is a good performance, though, and the elements of the song that elevated the single version to worst SR/TJ song ever weren't present (Or as prominent). And her vocals were impressive, especially at that last part.

I wasn't being completely serious when I said replace Fukushuu with it. I just dislike Fukushuu a lot.
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Old 2009.07.10, 04:22 PM   #46
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thats a shame, because its the album's saving grace to at least a few people.
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Old 2009.07.10, 07:10 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by Alternate Variety
Sake to Geko
Tsukigime-hime
Ramp
Kaban no Nakami
Pinocchio
Kronekodow
Boutomin
OSCA
BB.Queen
Metro
Karada
Kingyo no Hako
Senkou Shoujo
Suck it, original Variety.
You can replace Tsukigime-hime with Fukushuu if you want, I honestly don't care for either.

I will admit that the weird arrangement of the tracklist is a shoddy attempt at a story.

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Old 2009.07.10, 09:08 PM   #48
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No Killer Tune, Positron?
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Old 2009.07.10, 09:26 PM   #49
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Oh, good catch.

Yeah, it should be in there somewhere, knocking out Pinocchio and coming after Tsukigime (or if Fukushuu, after BB.Queen)
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b-but the s-s-symmetry!
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