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Old 2010.02.16, 02:14 PM   #101
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Originally Posted by ShadyNook View Post
i'm impressed how Ringo's concerns directly address what many people on this forum have mentioned. Her desire to screw the band and do a song with just her and a synth is funny.

she doesnt even think Noudoteki is very catchy. that sounds familiar. its like she's one of us.
I don't think that is what she meant about 3min. We already knew that she wrote the song and brought it to Jihen as a practice song, to get them to where she wanted them to be in order to try other material. The lyrics she wrote were mostly nonsense, to fit the music, and it was used as a rehearsal song, until it was chosen for the CM and for the single. Ringo is always going to be Ringo's harshest critic, and considering japanese is a language of constantly belittling yourself to sound polite, I don't think Ringo literally means she thinks the song is crap. She would never have released it if that was the case, I think she is just being polite. In japanese it is often the case when you give a gift to say something along the lines of "this is a rather boring and trite gift, but please accept it." Most people don't really think that, of course, but its the custom to place yourself below in order to honor your intended target and act polite.

in fact, she has said the same thing about every single they've had more or less. She said, concerning OSCA, that it was a song she thought that would be disliked amongst Japanese listeners and didn't expect it to do well (this was before its release), and for Shuraba she said that she had given some demos to the television producers for show it was featured on and was shocked when they picked Shuraba, which she didn't think they'd like.

3min is an awesome song, it IS groovy and I don't get the hate for it, but hey, whatever.

the fact that Ringo puts so much though and effort into her work is truly a blessing. The theme for variety was artistic cohesion as a band, so she wanted to let people be comfortable, so they would bond and meld together, but for this album she seemed to really want to push them and herself, to be as experimental as possible. I hope they don't keep the leftovers for the next album, I'd be interested in seeing where they would go from here. The comments about being disappointed to follow jihen as they find their legs are interesting, but this is the way I look at it. Kyouiku is a different animal because it was almost entirely ringo compositions and had two different members, so at this point its a moot point. Adult was the first Phase 2 album but again, mostly Ringo compositions and Ringo calling the shots. Variety was almost the debut of Tokyo Jihen as an actual band and not just Ringo and Session Musicians Phase 2, so a lot changed and didn't work for most of us. In a way this is almost like their real sophmore effort as a band. reading the reviews makes me think of a lot of things that are often said about artist's second albums, the sophmore slump etc (which usually fail because they can't top the success of the first. in this case that doesn't apply, but often artists often venture into unexpected experimental categories, as would be the case here). Either way, if there is at least one new track on the album that you like, I'd say its worth it, especially considering a lot of us aren't even paying for it, so...

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Old 2010.02.16, 02:15 PM   #102
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Hey, Marvelous Days is one of my favorite demos of hers ;_;!!
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Old 2010.02.16, 04:23 PM   #103
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LOOOOOOOOL, I hadn't noticed the moles XD!!
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Old 2010.02.16, 04:38 PM   #104
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XD I think that picture pretty much illustrates the track #3
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Old 2010.02.16, 07:38 PM   #105
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Originally Posted by Yahiko View Post
XD I think that picture pretty much illustrates the track #3
that was unexpected. i haven't listen to the album yet, now how would I be able to without laughing...
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Old 2010.02.16, 07:56 PM   #106
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Originally Posted by kuro_neko View Post
I don't think Ringo literally means she thinks the song is crap.
Of course she doesn't mean by 'not catchy' it is crap. Maybe I should have translated this part more in detail, sorry! She also says that 3min is not a kind of song that is made sweet to please people, and she wrote it solely to satisfy her artistic desire. That is why she was pleased with it hitting number one.

And many thanks everyone for your positive feedback to my post, which I find encouraging. I will post the TJ bit of the MUSICA interview later.
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Old 2010.02.16, 08:02 PM   #107
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Originally Posted by obama917 View Post
Of course she doesn't mean by 'not catchy' it is crap. Maybe I should have translated this part more in detail, sorry! She also says that 3min is not a kind of song that is made sweet to please people, and she wrote it solely to satisfy her artistic desire. That is why she was pleased with it hitting number one.

And many thanks everyone for your positive feedback to my post, which I find encouraging. I will post the TJ bit of the MUSICA interview later.
obama, I haven't read the interview so I can't confirm or criticize anything you wrote, I was responding to a comment from another user mentioning the song etc. when we translate japanese to english it comes off a lot harsher sometimes just based on cultural differences, that is why I just wanted to point out that Ringo's comment was most likely politeness and not actually displaying her dissatisfaction with how the song turned out.
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Old 2010.02.16, 08:20 PM   #108
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Originally Posted by kuro_neko View Post
obama, I haven't read the interview so I can't confirm or criticize anything you wrote
I see, that is my misunderstanding. Thank you for the correction.
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Old 2010.02.16, 08:32 PM   #109
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Originally Posted by obama917 View Post
I see, that is my misunderstanding. Thank you for the correction.
haha, no I'm very appreciative of your translations and I think you did a great job! always good to have translators/news sources around here!
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Old 2010.02.16, 11:25 PM   #110
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I would not be the slightest bit surprised if ringo comes on here and is actually one of the members who claim to be from europe....or texas or whatever (maybe its jihad).

If that is the case, I have a message for you Ringo.....I'm going to get that time machine from you and take my songs back. Just you wait! Only 2 more degrees of seperation til we meet and when we do, you best hide it where I'll never find it
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