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Old 2014.06.13, 02:13 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by FadedSun View Post
Hopefully not the way in that previous video. A weird combination of a fake/real performance. The bassist in that song really deserves praise. He has the hardest job out of anyone if you really listen and watch him play.
I bet it'll be her and the backing band, maybe idevian dancers as the cheerleaders (I wonder if it was them in the Music Japan performance). Who knows with Music Station whether you'll get a real live performance or a lip synched one.

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Did anyone check out that cover I posted? It's really good.
It's a nice cover. The official Nekonayagi twitter account even posted it a week or two ago.
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Old 2014.06.13, 08:04 PM   #132
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posted this on Facebook to this response (from someone I don't talk to very much anymore who currently lives in Japan)

Apparently the song is being criticized by liberals and diversity advocates for described Japan as "unmixed," whatever that means. Also, the subtitles translate the English "our native home" into the creepily nationalistic "fatherland." Also, the song is crap.

thoughts? Took me by surprise, anyone hear anything about this? Not sure where the "unmixed" comment is from - not the lyrics?
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^ I've seen some tweets here and there from Japanese Ringo fans about politics and the song, but they've been tweets deriding right-wingers that claim it's a song that supports their nationalistic views.

I don't know any further details or reactions though.
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Old 2014.06.14, 06:37 AM   #134
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People reading into the song too much?

Isn't it only a song for supporting Japan at the World Cup?
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Old 2014.06.14, 09:49 AM   #135
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There is a somewhat blurry line between nationalism and jingoism, and with Japan's history of authoritarianism, I can see why some people might be willing to look into it.
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Old 2014.06.14, 10:20 AM   #136
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^^^ Yep. Nationalism is only bad when it's someone else's.

Ringo did say some things about "the Japanese" in her chat with Kameda, like the virtue of keeping one's thoughts to oneself, but it's quite a leap from that to "Nihon uber alles."
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Old 2014.06.14, 04:34 PM   #137
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I think the existence of Ringohan in regards to her live accessibility might tell us where she stands on that nationalism/jingoism line =p
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Old 2014.06.14, 06:18 PM   #138
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my comment didn't edit like I posted last night but I got to the bottom of it. There is a lyric in the song that goes 混じり気のない我ら炎 (majiriki no nai warera honoo) - In this instance people are translating majiriki no nai as "unmixed" as in talking about the japanese spriit in being pure due to it being unmixed. My personal translation would be closer to emphasizing that the spirit of the nation is pure (versus saying unmixed) but its tomato tomahto and people just looking into it a bit too closely.

The other bit is the end where they translate her english lyric "our native land" with the kanji 祖国 - fatherland. This word has socio-ethnic connotations, particularly during WWII, so I think it triggered some political groups.

Poor Ringo - she just wants to rock!
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Left, Right, or other political affiliation, crazy people are always gonna find something to be crazy over!

As I watch Japan blow their 1-0 lead almost instantly, I'll bring you news that Shiina had another performance of NIPPON today on CDTV. I haven't seen it up on the internet yet, but it's only a matter of time.

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