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Old 2015.08.23, 07:02 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by deadgrandma View Post
Taiwan??? Well, that was more crawling back to her feet, but still, she was on all fours there...
I really hope you get that clip. XD

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Back to OP, I'm don't really put the contextual intent as something to consider (above other things) when listening to music. So it's a song about young girls or a lover, who gives, but then again, maybe because I'm in a foreigner perspective who don't even understand the lyrics? But no, I think I am like that in songs I can understand. Music first, then enjoy the other stuff like lyrics after.

GIPS and KOKO are simple rocks songs that I enjoy greatly. Yeah, I would definitely not use it as an introduction to Ringo. But it's moving despite its simplicity. That I think is what A LIFE SUPREME is aiming for, but isn't at par with the two.
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Old 2015.08.23, 10:19 PM   #22
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I am also a new fan, who started to listen Ringo's catalog around 2013, but I started my listen from MM. I like all older material (but NOT with their original deafening mastering which can still apply to the new materials) -- MM, SS, KZK and Watashi no Houden (the compilation of the older singles). Some of my favourite songs are Marunouchi Sadistic, Izonshou, Yokushitsu etc.
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Old 2015.08.24, 03:49 AM   #23
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I got into her around the time Shouso strip just came out. I remember being terrified of Tsumi to batsu and hopelessly in love with Gips. These days I love both equally.

I'd say when I first got into her my 'music education' was fairly nascent and I had to learn to like a lot of things.

That said, my very first listen to MM was magic, especially when she starts the verses of Tadashii machi. My Japanese knowledge then was probably like, 5 months old, but everything sounded like catchy poetry. And then I would go on to learn about what she was actually singing about, and started to love her more.

Many people consider KSK as the "holy grail" album but for me, it's always MM for what she accomplished with so little. It's philosophically almost like what she did with Jihen - less complex production, but stellar songwriting + performance.
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Old 2015.08.24, 11:41 AM   #24
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Gekokujyo Ecstasy sucks.
Ooh yeah, just like that.

Now, say something about SS being overproduced compared to MM.
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
Ooh yeah, just like that.
You sayin' you want a piece o' me? You got it!

It's totally cool if you enjoy all the technical guitar work being crapped on. Go ahead and compare the chorus of Izonshou to the SS version let alone the ending solo. The solo in Kyogenshou? The chorus that doesn't repeat on the album? The guitar break in GX Aozora? Riveting stuff. All the intricate synth and electronics from SS? Gone. I'd take the album versions of almost any MM/SS song over the GX version.

If you want to say you like it for other reasons, go ahead. I mean, I respect this:

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Okay, fine. As pure music, GE doesn't rank well.
and the rest of that post more than whatever bullshit you're trying to imply with this:

Now, say something about SS being overproduced compared to MM.
An impossibility when the opposite is more true. Still, wouldn't it have been nice if I had mentioned something in the same vein in that very post you quoted...

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It's very hard to separate MM and SS since the majority of the songs were written at the same time. You can take almost any song on one album and put it on the other without blinking.
Oh. I guess I meant to say if the production wasn't so different, right? And in case you're wondering, it's Yami ni Furu Ame and Tsumi to Batsu that I feel wouldn't fit on MM as well as the rest of the songs.

*shrugs* Whatever. If you think I'm being nitpicky and hyperbolic, you don't need to try to be so cute with it.
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I was saying that your statement piqued my interest and tried to direct you in a way to further inspire me.
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Like a phone sex thing. ya dig
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
I was saying that your statement piqued my interest and tried to direct you in a way to further inspire me.

Like a phone sex thing. ya dig
No. Stop messing with my head. I'm too old for your young shenanigans.

All I got to say is that I'd rather endure another decade of Ukigumo than listen to Yayoshi.
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I think thats just EMF PTSD bro.
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
I think thats just EMF PTSD bro.
Gives some real context to me quoting Frank Costanza.

"Maou, eat a Snickers."
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