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Old 2007.10.04, 08:49 AM   #51
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Okay, guys, tone down the rhetoric.

I find Glath's project fascinating. We do seem to prefer to look at SR's music as a series of singular works and judge them accordingly.....in which case KSK always comes out on top, due to the lack of spinoffs, retreads, and other sorts of cash-ins.

This is why it's difficult to be a fan. We want it all, but these artists are only human----they can only come up with original material at a normal human pace. So while we're waiting for the next piece of "originality," we get spinoff products......that end up disappointing us and diluting the impact of what comes after, no matter how original or interesting.

A good question might be, would we rather get fewer, but more "original" works from SR/TJ, or a greater number of works that inevitably contains variations of previous work.

Quantity or Quality???
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the answer is always quality.
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Old 2007.10.04, 03:08 PM   #53
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What will close this thread: any more personal attacks, and any more offensive language or arguments over offesnive language.
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Originally Posted by NIMH Rat View Post
What will close this thread: any more personal attacks, and any more offensive language or arguments over offesnive language.
Aka what is in 90% of the topics in "Main Forum" XDDD
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Thread re-opened after deletion of 6 posts that derailed a good discussion.

Carry on.....
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Originally Posted by NIMH Rat View Post
Quantity or Quality???
Obviously quality. And with SR's finances, she can definitely afford to take some time off. Not so sure if Uki's finances can support his time off tho. TJ's been churning out an album every year and the output just seems to get more disappointing each time (at least for me). I don't really mind waiting 3 more years if that means higher quality output from the band.

I'm just wondering if the decision to release an album per year is the band's or the record company's. TJ makes a hell lot of money for EMI and I wouldn't be surprised if they were "forced" to maintain a certain level of output per year to keep EMI's finances in the black. Or maybe I'm just overestimating them.
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Old 2007.10.05, 12:25 AM   #57
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A new album per year deal may be what gives TJ/SR the artistic freedom to do what they want, without EMI putting them on a tight leash; having albums that vary so much from one another surly makes The Man at EMI nervous. It MAY explain why SR HAVE to release HF too
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Yeah, and you have to wonder, if they were given 3 years to work on an album, the pressure might be even greater to deliver something commercial, to make up for the years of lost profits.
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But at the same time, that time gives them a bit of a longer incubation period. Recharge the batteries, really craft a sound.
I would much rather every other year an opposed to every year since it seems to me like the grind is wearing, mainly Shiina, out.

But hey, maybe album 4 next year will be an actual group effort and in theory more focused.
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I just wanted to resurrect this thread for Sanmon Gossip, to point out that it's the most "real" album from a PV vantage point.

Sanmon Gossip:
Album Exclusives PVs: 4 (Ryuukou, Tsugou no Ii Karada, Shun, Irokoizata)
Single Exclusives PVs: 0
PV Versions Mutual to Single & Album: 0
B-Sides: 0

While it's true that Sanmon Gossip has two compositions we've heard before, the PVs we got were never based off either of those two tracks. My system isn't about whether an album is 'original' or not - my system is about whether or not an album is being promoted as if it were a real album. I also can't subtract any points from Sanmon Gossip just because Ariamaru Tomi wasn't on the album but got a PV anyway - that would be like penalizing KZK just because Mayonaka wa Junketsu got a PV. Standalone A-sides have no influence on album scores.

Based on my old formula, Sanmon Gossip is a 20-point album - vastly exceeding the promotional uniqueness of any album which came before it.

We'll just have to wait and see how Sports turns out.
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