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Old 2007.07.16, 07:12 AM   #501
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Old 2007.07.16, 12:31 PM   #502
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I rarely liked any TJ songs at my first listening, I think Tasogare Naki was the only one. But Pinocchio and Kagami just joined this one. I love em both. OSCA is okay, but doesn't even come close to the b-sides
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Old 2007.07.16, 12:33 PM   #503
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Originally Posted by makenshiww View Post
whats the difference between first press of OSCA? ,and normal OSCA? ... I just ordered it on cd japan. yay . it shud be getting here soon.. 1 more first press left!
Is there any first press realease?? HMV didn't mention anything like that actually.

People who got their copy already. Please respond......

I don't have the copy yet, so i can't comment on the music yet. Been restraining myself to download it from the net so the surprise element will not fade away when my copy arrive.
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Old 2007.07.16, 01:05 PM   #504
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put the OSCA single on my iPod on friday and shocked myself by playing 'Kaban no Nakami' about six times in a row. definitely one of the best Tokyo Jihen songs. wonderful lyrics and Shiina's last high note just _nails it_

still a little disoriented about Ringo relinquishing musical authorship. but this single makes me feel a little better about it -- they've got such a distinctive sound by now, it's still Jihen.
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Old 2007.07.16, 01:16 PM   #505
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Originally Posted by Tsuchiya View Post
Finally, those of you who constantly nag about Uki's tone...just stop. It's clear that you have a very narrow view when it comes to what a guitar is supposed to sound like, and we don't need to constantly be reminded of that.
So... Can you tell me how B.B. King, John Mayer, Eric Johnson, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Brian May, Hirama Mikio, Sugizo, Duane Allman, Allen Collins and Eric Clapton have similar tones? You seem to be implying that since I have such a narrow view on what good tone is. You are reminded about it because I try to explain what I don't like about a particular thing instead of simply saying I don't like it. It's the same thing as you saying Uki is ace because he's unique. We hear that just as often, but you don't see me telling others to shut up about it.
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Old 2007.07.16, 06:15 PM   #506
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Obviously everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I have a hunch that TJ might not be the band for you if you're most excited by two of their b-sides, and are always pining for Uki to play "normally." I mean, clearly the band (and Uki, as the b-sides prove) is capable of playing standard pop-rock, but what's the point. Do you listen to TJ so you can pump your fists to an epic chorus?

Seriously, though, would you guys be happy with an album full of songs like "Pinnochio" and "Kaban no Nakami"? They're fairly MOR songs made better by Shiina's singing and all-around good musicianship. Variety would have nothing of the sort; it'd be a total snoozefest. I really hope "Killer Tune" is '70s funk with porno bass. Can't wait to see you guys bawl! Honestly, I'm not even crazy about "OSCA." But it at least has a unique sound, and the guitar playing and mini solos are ace.

Finally, those of you who constantly nag about Uki's tone...just stop. It's clear that you have a very narrow view when it comes to what a guitar is supposed to sound like, and we don't need to constantly be reminded of that.

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Old 2007.07.16, 06:48 PM   #507
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Well, they're not bad huh, but except for a few titles, there's nothing exceptionnal.
Maybe it has to do with the fact that they were innovative or whatever in their time, but today i can't find nothing that gret in it.
Second point is that their reputation is so fucken huge that when i first heard a full album, it could only be a little disapointing.
Expectations, etc...and it was particulary strong here since they're something like the most famous band of the world.

It's still surprising how people are shocked when someone doesn't like one of those untouchable bands. (same for Metallica, one of the over-estimated bands ever)
There's so much great bands in the history of music, some barely known, that it annoys me a little too, so maybe my judgement is affected when it comes to legendary bands that "everyone likes". (but it's not about being underground and not liking bands like these, otherwise i wouldn't listen to mainstream too... i personnaly prefer the Kinks, for example -except fo their bad 70's period-)

(ok, i'm maybe not very clear here but it's almost 5 am here, getting a little tired. Oyasumi.)
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Old 2007.07.16, 07:08 PM   #508
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Eh, its not "shocking" that someone doesntn like em, its just when they say they dont =P
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Maybe it has to do with the fact that they were innovative or whatever in their time, but today i can't find nothing that gret in it.
I'm not going to claim that this is true for every band, but the fact that you don't find anything great in most of the Beatles' songs is probably because a whooole lot of bands were influenced by this one group, and have many times copied their style to some degree. As you said, they were verrrry innovative for their time. If you listen to the music of the late 50s, and then some earlier Beatles songs ("September in the Rain," "How Do You Do it," "Mr. Moonlight") which sound like the style of that time, and then you listen to stuff like "I am the Walrus," "Lady Madonna," "I Want You (She's so Heavy)," or even "Wild Honey Pie," you can definitely see a huuuge difference.

Of course, lots of other bands contributed to the change of sound of the decade, but the Beatles were really the most noteworthy. That's why they were the most popular band in existence for so long. Current-day artists are still copying music techniques and writing methods that McCartney, Lennon, and (to some degree) Harrison basically invented in the 60's (I'm listing McCartney first because he deserves to be overrated too), so the fact that people may not see anything great in their music could actually be seen as a compliment..
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