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View Poll Results: What is your opinion of Ukigumo after listening to Variety?
I liked him in Adult and I like him the same in Variety. 18 35.29%
I didn't like him in Adult and I still don't like him in Variety. 3 5.88%
I didn't like him then but I do like him now. 1 1.96%
I liked him then but I don't like him now. 5 9.80%
I liked him in Adult but I love him even more now. 7 13.73%
I didn't like him in Adult but I hate him even more now. 3 5.88%
Ukigumo is meant for Tokyo Jihen! 8 15.69%
Bring Hirama back! 13 25.49%
I couldn't care less who plays guitar for Tokyo Jihen. 14 27.45%
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Old 2007.09.29, 04:28 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
I highly doubt there were auditions....
and Shiina had worked with Uki as recently (to the forming of TJ) as recording Ichijiku no hana/KZK. Uki was i the neighborhood, he had even worked on the album she was preparing to tour. And he was not her top choice.
Ohh, that's true, he was in Meisai right? Anyway, we don't know why the other two members were booted or left but I'd think the only reason Uki was not chosen first was because of the style of music they were doing. If Ringo always wants to do different things then I don't think they just made ADULT because Hirama was not there, because as Maou says, he should be able to play Uki's parts on there. I don't think he was a "second choice" in the sense that they would rather have Hirama.
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Old 2007.09.29, 04:33 PM   #12
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Yet they/Shiina already rathered Hirama once before
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Old 2007.09.29, 04:46 PM   #13
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I was going to vote Hirama because I like his music more, even if he isn't a precise guitar-playing machine.

But Hirama quit. Knowing that, I voted "I don't care." Uki played guitty on KSK and has a longer history working with Ringo, so I don't mind. I just don't want to be exposed to too much of his music unless its like Osca, Ramp, and Metro. If Ringo just lent 3 songs to Variety, a hackneyed song like Fukushuu would have been weeded out and the album would have been closer to awesomeness.

He's already got 3 Ringo-related albums under his belt, its time to get acquainted with the man.
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Old 2007.09.29, 05:09 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by HEDOfloe View Post
Uki was not a second choice. A second choice is when they were both there and she chose Hirama. I doubt they were both there in the first auditions.
He was already in in the Meisai PV so I think he really could be second choice
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Old 2007.09.29, 05:33 PM   #15
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Old 2007.09.29, 05:39 PM   #16
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IF I'm not mistaken. Tokyo Jihen decided when Shiina did the Electric Mole Tour. And at that time, she said in the interview that he carefully selected the member of the tour band by their freeness during the tour agenda. so there is a big possibility that Hirama is free, and Uki is not at that time.

But, I personally will choose Hirama because of his flexibility. Anyway, our though doesn't count. It was Ringo who decide it. And our theory is all in a doubt until she come here and answer all our question..
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Old 2007.09.29, 05:50 PM   #17
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Thanks for the info, Mad_Mac!
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Old 2007.09.29, 06:11 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by ShadyNook View Post
2003
Cloud: Can I join now?
Apple: No.

2004
Cloud: Can I join now?
Apple: No.
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Everyone: !!!

2006
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Apple: *sigh*...ok.

oh YES.
Even though second choice isn't always bad but in this case...
(I wanna rep you Shady but I gotta spread it around. hmm.)
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Old 2007.09.29, 06:54 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Mad_Mac View Post
Fukushuu is the worst. WTF, it just a plain average rock song for me like any other lame rock band out there
Same thoughts here. When this song started I thought I was in for another Ringo english orgasm. But as the song progressed I just got more bored and realized that it just sounded like somthing a crappy goth american rock band would make.

And Izawa didn't really help himself on the album either.

Uki was ok in Adult when he was only interpreting Ringo, but that's not the case now and he has to go if he decides to keep writing music for the band.
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Old 2007.09.30, 01:17 AM   #20
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Uki just has one bad song on the album. Admittedly, it's really bad, but it doesn't even feel like an honest Uki song to me. It seems like somebody decided the band should attempt that style for some odd reason and they turned to Uki. "OSCA" sounds the most like an Uki song, I think.
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