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Old 2014.05.12, 04:13 PM   #71
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If you like it more than Carnation, then you don't like Shiina Ringo.

Can't bring myself too feel too bad about NIPPON though, I called out it's shittiness before it came out. The Japanese of course will like it, its for the World Cup and sounds like it too. There MIGHT be hope for the bside though, as that is not a tie in to something as mass media as the World Cup.

Bet her sons into soccer btw...
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Old 2014.05.12, 04:38 PM   #72
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You were right about it from the start, deadgrandma. It is a theme song and we should treat it as one. While the link from the previous page would have me believe otherwise, I'm betting this track won't make it to an album. It just doesn't fit with the other things she's been doing. I'm hoping for a killer B-side but I just don't see it happening for this single anymore.

Carnation is great. Especially in English.
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Old 2014.05.12, 09:29 PM   #73
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Tried to come into this with as low expectations as possible, but that really didn't help offset how terrible this song was before the guitar solo and everything else from 2:30 onward.

Has there ever been a really good tie-in song for soccer though? "Waving Flag" by K'naan was the only one that seemed alright, and that was four years ago.
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Old 2014.05.12, 09:43 PM   #74
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She could have went this way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T68AXsUAEI

Wasn't actually a bad song and kept to the spirit of things.
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Old 2014.05.13, 02:52 AM   #75
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Or she could have gone go go go ole ole ole.

Now that I think about it, Ringo's definitely taking the piss, think about it...Japanese football team, foul...
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Old 2014.05.13, 03:16 AM   #76
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great song on this theme X]
its good to know she feels refreshed now
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Old 2014.05.13, 06:29 AM   #77
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Originally Posted by Inseu View Post
Or she could have gone go go go ole ole ole.
This woulda been a great cover. Better be on Utaite Myori 2 :-p

I've said this elsewhere, but I reckon NIPPON, with a bit of tweaking could be a great live song. I'm starting to warm to it a tiny bit now.
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I loved it! I'm afraid I'm on the bandwagon that thinks this is head and shoulders better than Carnation.

Am especially enamoured with the harmonizing near the end. Very pretty. This makes it one of the few Japanese sports events songs that I actually like along with that Mr Children one many years back.
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Old 2014.05.13, 10:21 AM   #79
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Originally Posted by deadgrandma View Post
If you like it more than Carnation, then you don't like Shiina Ringo.
I stand with DG on this one.

I mean, it's cool if you like Nippon, but let's be real... It sounds like any other pop-rock song in Japan that you hear in advertisements. Carnation at least sounds like Shiina Ringo.
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Controversial opinion but I would be quite happy (or wouldn't miss it at all) if Carnation was removed from her discography.
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