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Old 2007.10.07, 09:11 AM   #51
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Originally Posted by NIMH Rat View Post
I don't even know why I wrote in this thread.
Don't be discouraged NIMH. People post to make their voices heard. But many other people just read. To learn. It's the readers who will be influenced by posts as well written as yours, because they are reading with an open mind and not because they have something to say. You'll probably never get the response you mentioned, written and posted as a reply. But I assure you millions have changed their thinking after just reading this vast resource called the Internet.

On topic: Defining a personality based on musical genre is a very strange thing to do. Instead, look at lifestyle, personal interactions, maybe her lyrics. But genre?

In my view, SR is one of the rare artists who has kept it real. Most artists are limited by their labels, their fans, or by their own capabilities to always express the same thing. If SR wants to express something new, something different, then she does, and she does it well. She's got musical wanderlust, she's curious, and she has a work ethic. And in that she has been consistent throughout her career.
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Old 2007.10.07, 10:45 AM   #52
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Originally Posted by zach View Post
In my view, SR is one of the rare artists who has kept it real. Most artists are limited by their labels, their fans, or by their own capabilities to always express the same thing. If SR wants to express something new, something different, then she does, and she does it well. She's got musical wanderlust, she's curious, and she has a work ethic. And in that she has been consistent throughout her career.
This is a GREAT point, Zach. Ringo WAS influenced by her fans when they told her that they liked music written by other members, and instead of writing something she did not believe in, she kept it real and stayed out of the composing aspect and still gave the fans what they wanted. Now we can only look forward to their next album with even more fervor.
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Old 2018.11.24, 05:49 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
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They were fake if they were not true extensions of Shiina. If they were written because "this is my ticket."

See it this way, I can write a rap song. Maybe even a really good one. Let's just say, and I played up the image. And people really liked it, they bought my blinged records, wore their do-rags like I wore em, and as is apparent on these forums, I have the street-cred.
The problem being? Thats not me. Rap can be fun and the like, but I'm not a "rap" kinda guy -- but I was "frontin" that I was. How irate would the people that saw me as the second coming of BIG be if I was just doing it cuz I could and not because it was what I really was? If I put out an acoustic rock record and played it that I was "stretching my art" and disowning my earlier rap songs -- what credibility do I have? I duped a bunch of people into thinking I was something I wasn't.

Sure, you can piddle with genres and swap them, but you don't swap your philosophy.

This is beyond "HF an Variety are (likely) shit" this is Shiina wrote rock songs cuz she could, played it up, made us believe, but wasn't truly what she was. Whether "phase 2" is 'her' any more than the early stuff was doesn't matter because she already compromised that artistic trust. Why should we think a few years from now she won't separate herself from these albums too?

This is hilarious. Whose philosophy? I think you'll find it's yours and always was. 'Artistic trust'? What you have is either liking the music or not. Everything else is you speculating about the intentions and personality of a total stranger. Plus a lot of feelings.
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Old 2018.11.24, 07:03 PM   #54
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Nobody gives a fuck about what that guy says.
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LOL
It's so funny that after 11 years this thread is still relevant
my 2007 self would cry for daaaaaysssss if she knew that
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Old 2018.11.25, 02:14 AM   #56
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All the complaints here seem like child's play compared to what a monster Ringo has become after 2015 (lol?)
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I've mellowed in the last, let's check this thread date, 11 years Fauxie. You're right there's a fair bit of projection that goes on in fandoms. I don't think that's necessarily wrong. I don't even think it's wrong to feel upset if an artist starts making things that seem anathema to what you previously enjoyed.


Are you just looking for things to get upset or feel superior about? I'll save your the trouble, they're there.


On a lighter note, when i saw this thread title, I thought, what's DG on about now? Boy was I embarrassed
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
I've mellowed in the last, let's check this thread date, 11 years Fauxie. You're right there's a fair bit of projection that goes on in fandoms. I don't think that's necessarily wrong. I don't even think it's wrong to feel upset if an artist starts making things that seem anathema to what you previously enjoyed.


Are you just looking for things to get upset or feel superior about? I'll save your the trouble, they're there.


On a lighter note, when i saw this thread title, I thought, what's DG on about now? Boy was I embarrassed

I know, I know, it's from years ago. Apologies for being a bit of a dick with my tone. Not consciously looking to get upset or feel superior about something. I know it's a bit odd for you guys as this is old hat to you, a thread from ages ago, but the forum's new to me and I've been going through all the old threads in the main forum, seeing what fans were thinking at various times about different albums and whatnot. It's fascinating, I have to say.
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Old 2018.11.27, 03:50 AM   #59
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I imagine It's very entertaining, especially the time when some people got banned by the late admin who shall not be named because they didn't like ukigumo XD

Oh wait, this was at the old Ringo Jihen forums
can we still have access to that?
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