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Old 2014.09.17, 05:21 AM   #51
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I dunno, the whole reserved image started long before people probably like to admit... That is, with KZK/Baishou Xtasy. Hell, it's present on EM/ZX too. And it feels far more theatrical/put on/calculated there than it does at current.

So get over it.
Not a damn thing you said contradicts what I said. If anything, the close proximity implies it's not a natural process of growing up that caused it.
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Old 2014.09.17, 05:24 AM   #52
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I wasn't trying to contradict what you said, just pointed out the fact that it's time to let it go... she's been like that for more than 10 years now. It's probably an act, sure. But since when was anyone 100% sure of what Yumiko Shiina was truly like behind the "Ringo" stage persona? You never, ever really see any pictures of her home life. She could be a child beater for all we know :-p

Granted, if I was there from the start and fell in love with MM era Ringo for the persona, I'd potentially be a bit cold about it too. But her music for the most part has stayed quite solid (at least solo work). You have to ask yourself why you've stuck around this long if you really are that annoyed with the image changes she has made... and does it really matter in the end.
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She could be a child beater for all we know :-p
We do know. Fukushuu.
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The way some people complain about her, it's like she beat their childhoods.
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Old 2014.09.18, 08:06 AM   #55
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Originally Posted by deadgrandma View Post
I wasn't trying to contradict what you said, just pointed out the fact that it's time to let it go... she's been like that for more than 10 years now. It's probably an act, sure. But since when was anyone 100% sure of what Yumiko Shiina was truly like behind the "Ringo" stage persona? You never, ever really see any pictures of her home life. She could be a child beater for all we know :-p

Granted, if I was there from the start and fell in love with MM era Ringo for the persona, I'd potentially be a bit cold about it too. But her music for the most part has stayed quite solid (at least solo work). You have to ask yourself why you've stuck around this long if you really are that annoyed with the image changes she has made... and does it really matter in the end.
k but you're reading far too much into my simple statement that she went from one extreme to the other.
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