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Old 2007.09.25, 06:41 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
To illustrate my point, lets look a my fav mortal band, Oasis (*Tsuchiya chuckles*).
Haha, I did a little, actually.

Seriously, though, I used to own Morning Glory and Be Here Now. Yes, I liked them when I was...14.
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Old 2007.09.25, 06:45 PM   #82
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So, you disrespect your past? What got you here? Its kids stuff? tsk tsk. The past makes us what we are Tsuchiya.

aaanyway, uuhhh. Fukushuu. im not sure if its "actually" good, or just been so long since ive heard something like it. I have listened to it alot, so i'unno.
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Old 2007.09.25, 06:53 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by Tsuchiya View Post
Haha, I did a little, actually.

Seriously, though, I used to own Morning Glory and Be Here Now. Yes, I liked them when I was...14.
I think this is just wrong because, although I'm not too familiar with their music, Oasis does not sound like kids music. I don't see what's wrong with liking them. I like the beatles and I was introduced to them by my father since I could remember. He played them on almost every car ride (or so it seemed ) and am I immature or clinging on to my past just because I like them? I do not think so.

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aaanyway, uuhhh. Fukushuu. im not sure if its "actually" good, or just been so long since ive heard something like it. I have listened to it alot, so i'unno.
I think you LOVE it. Just say you love the rest of it, we all know you do
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Old 2007.09.25, 07:07 PM   #84
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad View Post
I dont think its a matter of "topping" everytime. Of course, its a nice surprise. But there shouldnt be a incongruous drop of quality, and it should 'sound' like the same artist while showing "progression."

To illustrate my point, lets look a my fav mortal band, Oasis (*Tsuchiya chuckles*) They havent made an album that tops their sophomore album from back in 1995. The 4 albums afterwards, have all failed to be as great as that and their 94 debut. Howevva, none of them are shames. None of em "well, maybe I should pretend this album doesn't exist." They all have quality, they sound like Oasis and they show progression musically.

I don't think Variety fulfills all these aspects.

no one is saying that about this album at all. There was negative backlash to HF even spread amongst the fan base because of the use of older music, but the reception to this album has been mostly positive with the exception of some of what I have seen on these forums. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but don't make the mistake of thinking yours is the only.

Variety definitely earns its stripes and I think if your disenchanted with it you probably will be just as disenchanted with whatever comes next, be it TJ or Ringo.
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Old 2007.09.25, 07:14 PM   #85
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Originally Posted by kuro_neko View Post
but the reception to this album has been mostly positive
Really? You really think so? I'd say it's "turbulently mixed" at best.

If the next album isn't some lame gimmick (other than perhaps to produce quality music with some soul) I will warmly open it, so long of course the music doesnt suck in spite of the hypothesis.
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I think "Fukushuu" is the only real flaw with the album. It doesn't even sound like Tokyo Jihen. Even when I try to overlook the extremely distasteful style of the song, I struggle to find anything remotely redeemable. Though I will say that it improves a bit closer to the end.

But COME ON, it's like EVANESCENCE or something. I was walking to work this morning listing to Variety, and every track was just sounding supremely epic (even "Mirrorball" sounded good...it's a good walking track because you have more patience to put up with the track's relatively stagnant structure)--just SO GOOD. Numerous shivers were had. Then I got to "Fukushuu" and it was like I stepped in dog shit. I really made me feel like a giant tool listening to that thing. I thought it might have been possible for Tokyo Jihen to tackle such a genre, but it turns out that not even the talented, inspired TJ can polish a hopeless ball of dung into a gem. What about the track has the Tokyo Jihen character? I wonder.

I don't blame Uki, though, because I think it's pretty obvious that the band (or someone...) wanted to have a track to attract their old fans--the ones who were teenagers when Shiina was solo. "Uki, make a song with angsty guitar wailing." It's also SMACK in the middle of the album. Damn. I've never been a "playlist" guy and I don't really believe in deleting songs from an album, but I just can't imagine this track ever working out for me.

I guess that counts as my review of "Fukushuu." I will to force myself to bear the stench in search of some sort of glimmer of quality, but there's really not much to sift through. All the other tracks are so detailed and layered that I can't see them growing old...ever really.

Whoever said that "Fukushuu" is the only track he likes...you just made my list.
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Originally Posted by HEDOfloe View Post
I think this is just wrong because, although I'm not too familiar with their music, Oasis does not sound like kids music. I don't see what's wrong with liking them. I like the beatles and I was introduced to them by my father since I could remember. He played them on almost every car ride (or so it seemed ) and am I immature or clinging on to my past just because I like them? I do not think so.

I think you LOVE it. Just say you love the rest of it, we all know you do
I'm mostly just giving him a hard time. I think Oasis are a good band, but I just kind of lost touch with them.
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Ok Tsuchiya. Really now, lets stop with the elitism. If is not "what japanese music do you like" its this "lolz kids" stuff.
/to your second to previous statement
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Originally Posted by HEDOfloe View Post
Superstar? Are you serious?
Yeah, see, they start eerily similar, they build up eerily similar, the guitar solo ending is similar and the song pretty much ends the same. So yes, serious.
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Old 2007.09.25, 07:24 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by HEDOfloe View Post
I think you LOVE it. Just say you love the rest of it, we all know you do
He's scared to like a Tokyo Jihen song.

Jihad, it's okay, we'll still like you if you admit to enjoying a song by the band that this board (you know, the one you have 10,000 posts on) is dedicated to.
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