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View Poll Results: What is your opinion of Ukigumo after listening to Variety?
I liked him in Adult and I like him the same in Variety. 18 35.29%
I didn't like him in Adult and I still don't like him in Variety. 3 5.88%
I didn't like him then but I do like him now. 1 1.96%
I liked him then but I don't like him now. 5 9.80%
I liked him in Adult but I love him even more now. 7 13.73%
I didn't like him in Adult but I hate him even more now. 3 5.88%
Ukigumo is meant for Tokyo Jihen! 8 15.69%
Bring Hirama back! 13 25.49%
I couldn't care less who plays guitar for Tokyo Jihen. 14 27.45%
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Old 2007.09.29, 12:12 PM   #1
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Ukigumo wrote 7 songs in Variety and displayed his ability to play more than just repeated staccato notes in his signature strange country/twangy style. Do you like him more after listening to Variety? Or much less? Or do you not care at all?

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Old 2007.09.29, 12:13 PM   #2
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Old 2007.09.29, 12:17 PM   #3
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Definitely more after Variety.
After hearing what he did to Toumei Ningen from the Dynamite! tour version, and comparing his work in Adult to Variety, it was a huge step up for him, both technically and musically.

EDIT: I think your poll will confuse people.

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Old 2007.09.29, 12:28 PM   #4
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Well, with a "bring Hirama back" option, how can you lose?

Now then, as I've expressed before his guitar work is less "intrusive" in Variety than in Adult. Uki wrote Fukushuu, I believe, so he gets some dap for that. hime and kingyo are both relatively inoffensive. However, he also wrote Metro, and im sure he wrote one of the kuronekodo/boutemin/ssaw trinity of lame.

Hirama is a better musician all around. Better writer, better guitarist, more versatile.

EDIT anyone that votes Ukigumo is meant for Jihen is fail. Uki was choice number what now?
Hint, its greater than one.
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Old 2007.09.29, 01:09 PM   #5
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Old 2007.09.29, 01:58 PM   #6
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"Ukigumo is meant for Tokyo Jihen!"

If Shiina thinks he's meant for TJ, why waste time thinking otherwise? Obviously she sees value in him that the rest of you don't, but ultimately, whose opinion actually counts? The haters' on some message-board or Shiina's?


"Hirama is a better musician all around. Better writer, better guitarist, more versatile."

Disagree. After seeing him live twice, he's a one trick pony. I always thought he was sloppy.
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Old 2007.09.29, 03:00 PM   #7
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I don't hate him as a guitarist that for sure. I like the way he play as i like Hirama play. What i don't like in Uki guitar playing is that i think he is unable to play a song like Shounan, or Service (Phase 2 Service is just PATHETIC). But Hirama still can play songs like Toumei or maybe OSCA with his own style.

I like what Uki did in Adult, since he only play Guitar at that album. But, in Variety, when he composed songs, it turns out ugly. Not all of them, but his song is less entertaining than Izawa's. Fukushuu is the worst. WTF, it just a plain average rock song for me like any other lame rock band out there.

So my vote comes to.

"i like him then, but i hate him now" meaning the way he composed.

"I couldn't careless"

I don't want to choose this but no other choice for me i guess. "Bring Hirama Back" seems impossible since he choose to do Solo, and Shiina respect that. and i do prefer TJ in this genre that fully rock like phase 1 (EVen though i enjoy it).

"Uki meant for TJ"

Is a bit bullshit for me. If he decided to go than go. I believe there are lot of better guitarist or least in the same level with him in Japan. And there will be lot of people toasting champagne in this board. He is one member in TJ that i couldn't careless. But, if he do go, it will left us a big mystery i guess. What kind of guitarist will come to replace him. A full rock kind, or his kind, or another kind. It's a bit interesting for me.

I just hope the other 3 will stay in Tokyo Jihen. I love them so much.
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Old 2007.09.29, 04:20 PM   #8
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I don't care who plays guitar for them since Ringo won't pick anyone who is not really talented.

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EDIT anyone that votes Ukigumo is meant for Jihen is fail. Uki was choice number what now?
Hint, its greater than one.
Uki was not a second choice. A second choice is when they were both there and she chose Hirama. I doubt they were both there in the first auditions. I would have voted that he is meant for Tokyo Jihen since I don't like any of his solo work and he seems to prosper in this band, but I feel more strongly about not caring who is their guitarist for the above reason.
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Old 2007.09.29, 04:22 PM   #9
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A bit of a confusing poll...

I dunno, I never exactly liked him or disliked him. I don't tend to have an opinion on the individual members of a band. My obvious stance would be I liked Adult but I didn't like Variety. But that doesn't mean I liked Uki when Adult was released and I don't like him now. I suppose I liked him during both albums because I didn't necessarily dislike his guitar playing during either album.
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Originally Posted by HEDOfloe View Post
I don't care who plays guitar for them since Ringo won't pick anyone who is not really talented.



Uki was not a second choice. A second choice is when they were both there and she chose Hirama. I doubt they were both there in the first auditions. I would have voted that he is meant for Tokyo Jihen since I don't like any of his solo work and he seems to prosper in this band, but I feel more strongly about not caring who is their guitarist for the above reason.
I highly doubt there were auditions....
and Shiina had worked with Uki as recently (to the forming of TJ) as recording Ichijiku no hana/KZK. Uki was i the neighborhood, he had even worked on the album she was preparing to tour. And he was not her top choice.
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