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Old 2009.03.15, 10:50 AM   #31
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If this is slutty, Britney's or Madonna's albums are pornographic.
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Old 2009.03.15, 04:11 PM   #32
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OK, I DO agree that probably nothing is as tasteless as Madonna's last offering and I've never heard a Britney album in my whole life, which I'm glad for. As for the comparison with Exodus, it's true it had sexual content in the lyrics, but I found it to be written more cleverly. Everyone criticized it as having dumb lyrics which I didn't find that catastrophic, frankly (even though they're not up to par with her Japanese ones), now a lot of people say that the new album has playful lyrics and whatnot and I actually think the lyrics are dumb... also, because she wants to break out so badly, musically it's really nothing interesting. It's catchy and fun, I'll give it that, but it's not anything you didn't already hear ten thousand times over the past few years.
I think it's possible to write good lyrics about shopping for groceries, so I don't have a problem with sexual lyrics at all, but why I call them slutty is because to me, they have no style and grace to them. Honestly it's pretty disturbing to me how little value sexuality has nowadays when it's just there to sell - I haven't seen the aforementioned Britney video and in a way I'm glad. I'm going off topic, so just let me say things like these are totally degrading to women, IMHO.
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Old 2009.03.15, 04:46 PM   #33
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I kinda like Britney Spears' new video. Uh oh.

It does seem really trashy after remembering she has two children, though. lol, I completely forgot.
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Old 2009.03.15, 05:03 PM   #34
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I love utada, she is awesome. I'm a pretty big fan, so no reason to trust trhe words of a fan boy, lol.

I've listened to TITO, I really really really like it. (But of course I like exodus and HF) I feel the album is very strong with no weak tracks. Funny out of the 10 tracks on the album one 1 is not that great (imo) and thats come back to me, lmfao. Every other song is win. Especially dirty desire and poppin and on and on... Great album considering she was rushed to release it.


For her english you can watch this

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Horrible interview, but she is talking none the less.

And her lyrics, her lyrics have always been simple,wheter its english or japanese, she has nothing on ringo in the lyrics department. But one thing I never liked about hikki-chan's lyrics was that I felt they were rarely about her, it makes me feel like they are impersonal. unlike ayu-chan whose lyrics are about her (read teddy-bear for some great stuff). With that being said, I need to pay more attention to her lyrics, I can not defend or condemn them now, although what I remember is good...
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Old 2009.03.15, 05:34 PM   #35
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this is pretty stupid, I'm not going to argue back and forth back about the details. i'm sure you could pwn me in that aspect. I brought up the columbia aspect because it was embellished quite a bit. I know people who not only went to that school during that time period, but worked in admissions and knew what was going on. she enrolled andd then took a leave and they kept it up like she was a student there whenever she had an opportunity for english press, which looks bad in my eyes. and you can't find any overtly slutty lyrics in her new album because that is all completely subjective. what is slutty for each person? is ringo a slut for singing about being a prostitute? I don't consider her so because she is fulfulling a role to tell a story that has social and anthropological relevance, its more than just talking about not wearing panties and whoring in kabuki-cho. even in honnou, her most sexual song, the graphic parts are all double entrendreus and don't really mean physically penetrate or enter, they mean to spur and provoke her impulses and complexes. however, with utada's english work it just feels sleazy. there doesn't seem to be any kind of redeeming factor about why she is talking about these things. and when I hear dirty desire it just makes me feel gross, its like a total cringe moment. no one really wants to hear about utada's p***y and her deep cravings. And if she is going to write about it she might be a little bit more creative in doing so. You can call her writing playful and silly but it mostly just comes off as cheap and unpolished. it actually at times reminds me of "touch my body" by mariah carey, the way the lyrics go and the way certain parts don't make much sense except to fit in the total overal rhythm of the song.

either way I happen to like Utada and I am a fan of her Japanese work and more than anything I just think that its disappoint her English work, so far, has mostly been crap.
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Old 2009.03.15, 06:35 PM   #36
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I think this album is cool besides for Poppin' which I thought was embarrassingly awful for an album like this I think it's best not to over analyze any aspect of it, just put it on in the background and enjoy it for what it is. Which happens to be a rather good 'don't take me serious' album.
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Except she probably wants the West to take her seriously.
Agreed with neko on the sleaziness, pretty much what I wanted to say.
And jigenbakuda, it's true that Come Back To Me is one of the most boring songs on the album, actually Taking My Money Back and that probably are... but TMMB doesn't go anywhere at all. Other than that they probably could pick singles out of a hat. I think FYI or Me Muero would have chances.
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Old 2009.03.16, 01:56 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by kuro_neko View Post
it actually at times reminds me of "touch my body" by mariah carey, the way the lyrics go and the way certain parts don't make much sense except to fit in the total overal rhythm of the song.
Bravo neko! You're almost there!
Now do this:
1 - Go read TLC, Aaliyah, r'n'b and rap lyrics.
2 - Compare to Utada's.
3 - ???
4 - PROFIT!

Sorry for being so obnoxius, but seriously, it took you a long time to understand that Ringo and Utada are from completely different worlds.

Also, check out this Reuters news clip. They say she's a "Columbia drop-out" and that's pretty much the only moment they hint at Columbia. I don't think they make it look like a big part of her life.

I think that if the West takes Kate Perry seriously, while she's kissing girls and liking it, Utada can succeed too.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obvious Destiny's Child melody rip-off in Taking My Money Back. Or the very odd lyrics in This One (Crying Like a Child)... it seems to be about an obsessed fan.

The only songs I really dislike now are Automatic Part II and Me Muero. I still think that Poppin' is a terrible song, but it's funny-terrible, so somehow I still 'like' it.

In terms of being taken seriously... it really depends how the lyrics are delivered and how the artist is presented. Utada is not anything like Katy Perry and she does not deliver her lines like Katy Perry, so I doubt Utada singing I Kissed a Girl would've been a hit in the West.
Some of the lyrics are extremely awkward and laughable (though I like Utada for her awkwardness, so it doesn't bother me all that much), especially the talking parts in Poppin' (*shudder*). The verses in On & On have some of the best delivered playful lyrics, and I think it's because they're underplayed (burn it up like a gay parade, or however it goes).

Since BoA is releasing at the same time, it's hard not to compare. BoA's lyrics do not come across as awkward or embarrassing, but they're extremely generic and forgettable (perhaps minus Look Who's Talking, and maaaybe Hypnotic Dancefloor... what the hell is a hypnotic dancefloor? Oh and maaaybe Girls on Top, but maybe that's just because I'm used to the Korean version).

Longest post I've ever made here possibly, I'm obviously procrastinating from doing my homework.
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if this was utada's first release I'd probably think different. I probably won't give it the time of the day or space on my ipod. I mean, what does she have on other rnb stars? mariah? well at least mariah can (err, used to) sing, utada's pipes aren't so impressive range-wise, but she sings that small amount great. I mean, she goes from ultra blue to heart station to this, its the equivalent of falling flat on your face.

and its currently my birthday so you can't argue with me on that, you have to wait at least 24 hours, so in ya face suckaaaaaa
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