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Old 2010.08.02, 10:39 AM   #81
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i love both of these songs.
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Old 2010.08.03, 06:00 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by lazer85 View Post
Okonomide is actually one of the few Ringo songs that I sat down and read the lyrics because I was trying to figure out how to play it on guitar. As opposed to Ringo no Uta and Yattsuke Shigoto and the 2 or 3 others I've read which made a lot of sense to me, Okonomide made me see why all my Japanese friends think Ringo is a snob. I'm not sure if it's good or bad but it certainly didn't make sense to me or the 3 Japanese friends I asked. It's like so overly poetic that only people who are well versed in certain things can understand it and that is actually kind of snobby. Snobby isn't necessarily a bad thing though...
The song "as you like" is about changing behavior to fit opponents like polishing her nails.
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Old 2010.08.03, 08:48 PM   #83
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Meh to both songs. Tengoku e Youkoso is not bad, but yeah, meh.
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Old 2010.08.04, 06:54 AM   #84
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Blah. Dopamint! sounds like a Variety outtake and reminds me of the songs I disliked most from that, and Tengoku's nothing special (the English is annoying).
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Old 2010.08.04, 07:32 AM   #85
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I agree with both of those statements :-/
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Old 2010.08.04, 10:02 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Masuku View Post
i love both of these songs.
i agree
i like them both, too

i don't think it's campy, it's a style...
i would enjoy listening to the entire track of 天国へようこそ
maybe i will find this cd at the mall close by, that'd be nice
just have to wait a bit though
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Old 2010.08.04, 10:38 AM   #87
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Originally Posted by Scribble R View Post
Solo Ringo > Any TJ phase. Including Sanmon Gossip.
I think it all comes down to that statement.

Even though I enjoy most of their/her latest works, I'm conscious I do it in a different way than with her early music. I know I run the risk of being generalizing, because she has always been constantly changing as an artist (perhaps one of her main features) but, right now, I can't deny she used to be pretty much more expressive, personal, passionate or genuine.

At least it's what I feel, and curiously, it matches up with the fact that all the band members assumed a compositive role.
Honestly, I don't understand it at all: Tokyo Jihen wouldn't have been the same without her genious (it's obviously their essence), and they are not, actually. I mean, they are still great, but used to be unique.

By the way, Tengoku e Youkoso is an interesting song for me, very atmospheric and with a great climax near the ending, but that guitar solo seems way too out of place there, in my opinion. On the other hand, Dopamint! is an amusing tune, nothing pretentious at all... anyway, I love the measure (don't know the right word in English) in the chorus.
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Old 2010.08.04, 01:14 PM   #88
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Originally Posted by Scribble R View Post
Solo Ringo > Any TJ phase. Including Sanmon Gossip.
Eh, I'd put Kyouiku as at least equal to SG. The songs Shiina wrote for that album still have the classic Shiina feel to them even though they were never fully fleshed out by choice. Plus Electric Mole is a Tokyo Jihen phase even though it's labeled as solo Shiina.

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By the way, Tengoku e Youkoso is an interesting song for me, very atmospheric and with a great climax near the ending, but that guitar solo seems way too out of place there, in my opinion. On the other hand, Dopamint! is an amusing tune, nothing pretentious at all... anyway, I love the measure (don't know the right word in English) in the chorus.
I like the beginning part before they try to rock out. It sounds so very Bonnie Pink with the faux xylophone. I also here bits of Tsumi to Batsu in the song. Then, as you noted, Ukigumo starts playing out of place like he so often does. He just has so much trouble integrating with the rest of the band at times. He completely ruins songs for me.
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Originally Posted by EmilScherbe View Post
The song "as you like" is about changing behavior to fit opponents like polishing her nails.
Wow, I never looked at it that way. But what is the "twelve nails" line about? Or where she says "So, go ahead, as a duplication of pleasant feelings, how would a pair of glasses be?" (translation from Nostalgic Lavender)
Sorry for asking so many questions.
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Old 2010.08.05, 06:47 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by Entry№1 View Post
But what is the "twelve nails" line about?.
maybe she was born w 6 fingers on each hand :O
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