OSCA PV Plagiarism - Page 4

fluffiethesock · 2007.07.18, 12:08 PM

...and Tokyo Jihen's five-member system is a rip-off of Final Fantasy IV.

I figured now was a good time to bring it up.

k3nj1kun · 2007.07.18, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by HEDOfloe

Wow this is crazy! Does anyone know if Ringo makes her own PVs or if it is the director's idea?

im guessing that the director makes the shots and decisions
but who cares~

maybe they got permission for using the same concept: 4 possessed chicks dancing with no relation to the music.

i love both clips! haha

Inaudible-Whisper · 2007.07.18, 04:11 PM

As similar as they are, and can quite easily see how 2 people would come up with such a similar idea without having seen the other.

waxringo · 2007.07.18, 06:29 PM

panties everywhere...girls, put on pants.

this is strange and unusual....like a ghost.
who knows if she knows, I know I won't have a chance to ask her anytime soon. and maybe she even got permission to use the similiar theme. you never know.

Canto · 2007.07.18, 09:20 PM

I have this assumption that the alt. version of Crazy Beat and OSCA are coming from the same director. First, British bands have a tradition of putting "ethnic" elements into their work. They would be very happy to hire a Japanese director to visualize their song. (Damon Albarn's pretty much into Oriental senses at that period of time.) And, one of the dancers in Crazy Beat is an Asian, if you look more closely you'll see she looks pretty similar to one of the OSCA dancers. Thirdly, according to a report in Japanese the director of OSCA is famous for his "wizardness". So, it's more possible that the array of 4 dancers is his trade mark of making MVs than that it was his "tribute" to Crazy Beat.

PS: IMO Blur's "Think Tank" is one of the best albums recorded in these decades. I put it on the same level of KZK. (allmusic.com doesn't reckon, though)

Tokyo Jihad · 2007.07.18, 09:28 PM

yeah i noticed that at least the dancer down-stage was asian, so I thought maybe it was the same director, but I haven't produced the name of Crazy Beat director.

Inaudible-Whisper · 2007.07.18, 09:46 PM

Blur video was directed by a group of 4 artists called Shynola, although that could likely be referring to the other Crazy Beat video.

k3nj1kun · 2007.07.19, 05:13 AM

his guitar reminds me of hirama's..

maybe..

newyorkjihen · 2007.07.19, 09:19 AM

Well, I'm also in the blame the director camp. Artists are too busy to direct their own videos. (And raise a child...) So their label will make the connections, give them the treatments, and say, "pick one." I'm sure they will want to have some input, like "ooh put little wings on my back" or whatever. But what we know of Shiina Ringo & Tokyo Jihen is not a product of one person, but hundreds of people at her label.

ShadyNook · 2007.07.19, 12:23 PM

I have a feeling that even if the band found out about this, they just don't care either way.

2007.07.18, 04:11 PM	#33
Inaudible-Whisper Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 3,195	As similar as they are, and can quite easily see how 2 people would come up with such a similar idea without having seen the other. __________________

2007.07.18, 06:29 PM	#34
waxringo Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 222	panties everywhere...girls, put on pants. this is strange and unusual....like a ghost. who knows if she knows, I know I won't have a chance to ask her anytime soon. and maybe she even got permission to use the similiar theme. you never know. __________________

2007.07.18, 09:28 PM	#36
Tokyo Jihad Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Antonio! Hoody Hoo Posts: 4,868	yeah i noticed that at least the dancer down-stage was asian, so I thought maybe it was the same director, but I haven't produced the name of Crazy Beat director. __________________ "Jihad is the soul of EMF"--Lena

2007.07.18, 09:46 PM	#37
Inaudible-Whisper Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Newcastle, England Posts: 3,195	Blur video was directed by a group of 4 artists called Shynola, although that could likely be referring to the other Crazy Beat video. __________________

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2007.07.18, 12:08 PM	#31
fluffiethesock Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,793	...and Tokyo Jihen's five-member system is a rip-off of Final Fantasy IV. I figured now was a good time to bring it up.

2007.07.18, 09:20 PM	#35
Canto Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 135	I have this assumption that the alt. version of Crazy Beat and OSCA are coming from the same director. First, British bands have a tradition of putting "ethnic" elements into their work. They would be very happy to hire a Japanese director to visualize their song. (Damon Albarn's pretty much into Oriental senses at that period of time.) And, one of the dancers in Crazy Beat is an Asian, if you look more closely you'll see she looks pretty similar to one of the OSCA dancers. Thirdly, according to a report in Japanese the director of OSCA is famous for his "wizardness". So, it's more possible that the array of 4 dancers is his trade mark of making MVs than that it was his "tribute" to Crazy Beat. PS: IMO Blur's "Think Tank" is one of the best albums recorded in these decades. I put it on the same level of KZK. (allmusic.com doesn't reckon, though)

2007.07.19, 05:13 AM	#38
k3nj1kun Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 174	his guitar reminds me of hirama's.. maybe..

2007.07.19, 09:19 AM	#39
newyorkjihen Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 97	Well, I'm also in the blame the director camp. Artists are too busy to direct their own videos. (And raise a child...) So their label will make the connections, give them the treatments, and say, "pick one." I'm sure they will want to have some input, like "ooh put little wings on my back" or whatever. But what we know of Shiina Ringo & Tokyo Jihen is not a product of one person, but hundreds of people at her label.

2007.07.19, 12:23 PM	#40
ShadyNook Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 764	I have a feeling that even if the band found out about this, they just don't care either way.