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Old 2008.08.18, 08:50 AM   #11
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This is quite common in Japan. Ayumi Hamasaki has a bunch of lookalike porn vids. Some of them look like her, others don't. Abe Natsuki is supposed to look like Abe Natsume, but I don't think they look very similar.
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Old 2008.08.18, 09:27 AM   #12
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Is this somebody that looks like her?
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Old 2008.08.18, 09:32 AM   #13
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I dont think it looks at all like her....
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Old 2008.08.18, 09:35 AM   #14
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honnou, supposedly, according to interviews with Ringo, was supposed to be about a women's right, separate and apart from man's, to a sexual fantasy. Ala the video was about her dressed up in fetish wear (nurse outfit) and having her own sexual fantasy (the scenes with her and the patient, this is also why the patient was a female and not a male, she didn't want to include men and water down the message) apart from men. Thus she was dressed as a nurse and running around not to please men but to please herself. People misunderstood the lyrics of the song (which are very sexual) coupled with the video and focused on the lesbian kiss, causing Ringo to be openly criticized and subjected to lots of negative media attention. This is why she felt so miserable during the SS era of her career, she felt most plagued by the "honnou" image of her and that is why she appears dead in the PV for Ichijuku no Hana.

For her to use the image of the nurse in the video would imply that the cosplay /nurse sex fetish is quite a common and large one in Japan. I don't think she could possibly hope that a video about her rubbing balloons on her body or being an amputee (both strange, but marketed, fetishes) could possibly carry that message to the public.
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Originally Posted by kuro_neko View Post
honnou, supposedly, according to interviews with Ringo, was supposed to be about a women's right, separate and apart from man's, to a sexual fantasy. Ala the video was about her dressed up in fetish wear (nurse outfit) and having her own sexual fantasy (the scenes with her and the patient, this is also why the patient was a female and not a male, she didn't want to include men and water down the message) apart from men. Thus she was dressed as a nurse and running around not to please men but to please herself. People misunderstood the lyrics of the song (which are very sexual) coupled with the video and focused on the lesbian kiss, causing Ringo to be openly criticized and subjected to lots of negative media attention. This is why she felt so miserable during the SS era of her career, she felt most plagued by the "honnou" image of her and that is why she appears dead in the PV for Ichijuku no Hana.

For her to use the image of the nurse in the video would imply that the cosplay /nurse sex fetish is quite a common and large one in Japan. I don't think she could possibly hope that a video about her rubbing balloons on her body or being an amputee (both strange, but marketed, fetishes) could possibly carry that message to the public.
That's what they want you to believe. She probably just lezzed it up for the boys.
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Old 2008.08.18, 01:36 PM   #16
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I don't think that's right Ringomaster ? I think she did it as a self expression rather than a cheap sex gimmick to sell records! she already expressed her feelings about this before I believe.. can't a woman express herself without the obvious reactions being true ?
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Well the old lipstick lesbian trick has been done so many times before, you have to be wary of these things.
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It was her being rock n roll and badass, not sleazing it up to sell records.
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It was her being rock n roll and badass, not sleazing it up to sell records.
It's not like you know her enough to say that =P
But yeah, I suppose it would be incoherent with her career until Honnou.
I guess that media reaction actually traumatized her, that's why she now prefers to go the polite way. Any thought of going badass again makes her freak out.
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OMG is Honnou
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