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Old 2015.03.17, 03:12 AM   #271
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Well the packaging is certainly something.

At least the blu ray has that going for it.

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Old 2015.03.17, 05:00 AM   #272
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Originally Posted by anonlurker View Post
It is inferior though. There's nothing wrong with a bit of a show when you're a pop/rock star and you have the tunes to back it up. The problem arises when you still put these shows on but completely neglect the music in the process.
It's my belief that her recent songs were written and recorded long before this concert was conceived.
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Old 2015.03.17, 07:25 AM   #273
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the new concert has a good set list. At least half of the Toutoukai songs were great. I actually wish there was a bit of Ringo stanning and less toxicity (between all the Ringo boards) because damn.
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Old 2015.03.17, 07:38 AM   #274
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Originally Posted by deadgrandma View Post
Pic taken from a link I was sent on last.fm
And this is a woman who's allegedly embarrassed by her early days/Honnou?

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It's my belief that her recent songs were written and recorded long before this concert was conceived.
True, but I'm in a agreement both you and anonlurker. The accordion concert was a bore, but her pop-rock concerts have gone into disappointing territory. Even back in the dying days of Tokyo Jihen, the theatrics started to pick up. I feel like this concert places precedence of theatrics over musical performance. Truly aiming at being a show rather than a concert. Souretsu was a letdown, Sounan is straight accordion concert garbage, the guitar work Arikitari na Onna was butchered, the guitar solo in JL005 was butchered and HZM was such a non-factor. The first Ringo Expo was so much better musically.
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Old 2015.03.17, 08:37 AM   #275
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I will need to watch the DVD in full when it gets here, but I can't really see why theatrics means the songs mysteriously become weaker. It's not like she literally gives a directive to "play like shit" when she decides to have bells and whistles.

Her performance from the clips at least sound great (and definitely looked great) so. Oh well.
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Old 2015.03.17, 08:49 AM   #276
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Originally Posted by Maou View Post
And this is a woman who's allegedly embarrassed by her early days/Honnou?
Are you saying she should feel embarrassed by that photo? Don't see why.

Anyway - seems like we're all pretty divided on Ringo these days. I thought the accordion concert was fantastic from a musical perspective and really enjoyed watching/listening to it. The clips I watched from Youtube from Expo '14 were all enjoyable too - so I can't really complain.
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Originally Posted by gekokujyo View Post
I will need to watch the DVD in full when it gets here, but I can't really see why theatrics means the songs mysteriously become weaker. It's not like she literally gives a directive to "play like shit" when she decides to have bells and whistles.

Her performance from the clips at least sound great (and definitely looked great) so. Oh well.
In Bon Voyage, which songs actually suffered from having bells and whistles? Ikiru? Nope. New Civilization? Nope. Tengoku e Youkoso? Nope. Omatsuri Sawagi? Nope. Was OSCA/FOUL any worse for having dancers? Nope.

You may hate the songs themselves, fair enough. But I wonder if people are just upset because the particular aesthetic she goes for just doesn't appeal to them. If you like SR's music, I don't see how Ringo Expo '08's vegasness could be distracting. The only show that arguably suffered from being over the top with bells and whistles was Just Can't Help It, and that was mostly an editing thing.

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Originally Posted by gekokujyo View Post
I will need to watch the DVD in full when it gets here, but I can't really see why theatrics means the songs mysteriously become weaker.
I didn't necessarily say that (nor did anonlurker), buuuut... It sure feels like she spent more time planning and rehearsing the theatrics than writing/arranging/rehearsing the soundtrack. The musical aspect is more than likely weaker because the band itself is weaker than others she's performed with. Her singing sounds fine, but everything else leaves something to be desired. The Sunny songs are generally worse than the studio recordings and there's completely uninspired arrangements. You know what song she hasn't performed in a long time? Phase 1 Sounan. This show has the guy who supposedly gave Ringo the idea for the guitar intro and the guy she recorded the song with. Better play the same crummy accordion version she just did rather than spend time relearning a different arrangement. It's better that Uki and HZM take the time to learn how to fire confetti blasters rather than how to perform a better song.

None of the stage theatrics really matter to me. I'll watch a concert once and then just listen to the audio. Generally, she delivers live performances that surpass the original studio recordings. She simply doesn't here.

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Are you saying she should feel embarrassed by that photo? Don't see why.
I'm saying portraying a bisexual nurse or a bride pointing a gun at her head is no more embarrassing than cosplaying as Marilyn Monroe while lifting your skirt or portraying a pink haired burlesque girl.

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In Bon Voyage, which songs actually suffered from having bells and whistles?.
Season Sayonara. Depending on how far you want to go with "bells and whistles".
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http://www.kronekodow.com/gaiko/150325dvd.html

They're releasing an "Academic" version of the concert on DVD that has a single fixed camera view of the entire stage.

The concert filmed for this DVD is the final 12/21 performance in Fukuoka, not the 11/12 Osaka concert on the main release. Listed as 113 minutes.

Preorders start on the 25th, and it might only be sold on Ringo's site.

They mention that it was filmed using a consumer grade camera, so expect varying degrees of audio and video quality throughout the performance.

1,000円 for the general public, and 900円 for Ringohan members with a limited sticker included.

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