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Old 2014.03.07, 10:31 AM   #101
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^That's interesting, I didn't know there was an official translation of the title! If I were to translate "Mahou ga Tsukaenai Nara Shinita" I'd translate it as "If I can't use magic, I'd rather die", or something like that.

It seems that a lot of people get a bit stumped by Seiko's image when they first start listening to her. But I think that it's a mistake to get too caught up by trying to figure out "what she's trying to do" or "what does it mean" etc. Mostly because I'm fairly certain that the idol-ish image is purely because she likes it. That's not to say that there can't be any satirical or critical elements in here performance, or that it's not worth discussing though! But I think her music is more important than her image when trying to figure out what she's about.

Hmm, I'm not sure where I'm going with this anymore. I guess it's just that I see so many people just discussing he image or comparing her to other artists, but not really discussing her music (and how her music connects with her image)
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Old 2014.03.07, 01:38 PM   #102
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Official translation is "The child would die without magic"
Strange. Considering that the word for "child" doesn't even appear in the title. That's Japanese for you.
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Old 2014.03.07, 02:06 PM   #103
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^I think that it's not supposed to be a literal translation, but maybe a new English title that can convey the meaning/intent?

While we're on the subject of translations, I tried translating Over the Party.

Over The Party

ギャルママが飲み干す缶チューハイハイになって手放らすベビーカー
大事にしてたのは嘘ではないよ わかって欲しい わかんないよね
あたしのブログを悪味でもやして 火サス見終わって2階にあがって
ごはんできたよと息子に触って
週末家族でディズニー バクワラ
散らばった夢は全部捨てた
試したダメだった美容器具
ビョークのミュージック
真夜中のスクランブルエッグ
私もこんな風になりたかった

Over 30 おばさん
鏡の中でちょっとマシにやっている
進化する豚
お前の国の言葉なんて知らない
メアドが変だかあ好きじゃない

桜が終わって40デニール
愛情のないホイコーロー
味見しなきゃわかんないよなんてね

エッチだってしたのにふざけんな

今すぐ会いに行くよ♪ (暇だから)
君に夢中☆ (ほかの趣味が無いから)
ムキになっても恥ずかしくないほど青春だったね
携帯小説ごっこした公園も
六本木ヒルズみたいなマンション
見たことないけど多分すごく
デカイエグいカンケーない
新しく通った高速道路
ウェディングロード 新車のローン
ダイソーで買ったグラサンデコって
イカれたニートで イカしたムード

Over 30
おばさんをからかわないで
すぐに飽きてしまうから
進化する豚
今更だけどちょっとマジになっている

散らばった夢は全部捨てた
試してダメだった美容器具
ビョークのミュージック
真夜中のスクランブルエッグ
私も誰かとこんな風になりたかった

Over 30 おばさん
鏡の中でちょっとマシにやっている
進化する豚
お前の国の言葉なんて知らない

Over 30 オバサン
Over The Party

Over The Party

A gal mama downs a canned chuhai, gets drunk and lets go of the stroller
What I valued wasn't a lie, I want you to understand that, but you don't, do you?
My blog is ablaze with ill-will, I finish watching the Tuesday suspense drama and go up to the 2nd floor
With a "dinner is ready" I touch my son
During the weekend I watch Diseny with my family, roaring with laughter
I threw away all my scattered dreams
and all the useless beauty products I tried
Björk's music
and scrambled eggs at midnight
I also wanted to be like that

Over 30, old lady
Making herself look better in the mirror
Evolving pig
I don't speak your language
Your e-mail address is weird, so I don't like it

The cherry blossoms are done, 40-denier stockings
Twice cooked pork without love
You can't tell if you don't try it, yeah right

Even though we had sex, don't mess with me

I'll come meet you right now♪ (Because I'm free)
I'm so into you☆ (Because I don't have any other hobbies)
Even though we got defensive, it was an adolescence without shame
The park where we played out cellphone novels and
An apartment like Roppongi Hills
I've never seen them, but they're probably incredibly
Huge, amazing, that's got nothing to do with it
The new freeway I passed by
Wedding Road, the loan for a new car
The sunglass decorations I bought at Daiso
A broken down NEET in a good mood

Over 30
Don't ridicule the old lady
I get tired of it immediately
Evolving pig
It's late now, but you've gotten a bit serious

I threw away all my scattered dreams
and all the useless beauty products I tried
Björk's music
And scrambled eggs at midnight
I wanted to be like that with someone

Over 30, old lady
Making herself look better in the mirror
Evolving pig
I don't speak your language

Over 30, old lady
Over The Party

Notes:
  • Gal mama refers to a mother who still wears gal fashion. Often they're young or even teenagers.
  • Chuhai is an alcoholic drink
  • I'm not sure what "40-denier" is/means, but several google searches tell me it's probably got something to do with stockings?
  • Cellphone novels are a type of novel that's written on and for reading on cellphones. They're also usually written by and for young women.
  • NEET = Not in Education, Employment or Training

There were some parts were the words were written in katakana and I had to guess from the context which word Seiko meant (like in this part: デカイエグいカンケーない). There's probably other mistakes as well, so if anyone sees them, feel free to point them out!

I'm also not sure if I managed to properly convey the tone of the lyrics. English isn't my native language, so I think maybe some things get lost in the process from Japanese -> Norwegian -> English...
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Old 2014.03.07, 02:38 PM   #104
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Still probably my favourite Zettai Shoujo song... it's one of those tracks where you can feel it's sting even without a translation. All versions I've heard of it are amazing, and like Shinjuku, its also one where she seems to change up lyrics and lyric order live.
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Old 2014.03.07, 05:19 PM   #105
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Originally Posted by FadedSun View Post
A picture of Audrey Kimura and Seiko Oomori. Audrey helps promote Japanese bands in America, and also heads a tour called Japan Nite that seems to happen yearly in N.America. I keep telling her to bring Seiko to America! Hopefully it happens someday. She says she would really like to. Audrey also mentioned that she's going to Seiko's show next month with Yuu from Go!Go!7188.
GASP She's doing a show with Yuu!? When and Where I need TICKEEETS
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Old 2014.03.08, 06:20 AM   #106
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Seiko wrote the lyrics to one of the songs off Up Up Girls (Kari)'s upcoming single. The song is called (仮)は返すぜ☆be your soul ((Kari) wa kaesuze☆be your soul), and the release date for the single is April 9th.

Up Up Girls is one of the idol groups that Seiko has performed with in the past.
Seiko vs Up Up Girls
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Old 2014.03.08, 03:18 PM   #107
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Do not want. But cool that she is puppet master.

Will add to collection anyway.
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If it's just lyrics, I don't see why it matters anyways. You've said yourself that you don't care at all about her lyrics.
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Old 2014.03.09, 06:59 AM   #110
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Personally, I'm curious to see what kind of lyrics she'll write for Up Up Girls! The title is very idol-ish.

Also, Seiko collaborated with Kitunebi on the song 原爆ドームの見方が変わった日 (Genbaku Dome no Mikata ga Kawatta Hi). The song appears on the album "31-sai no Real", which will be released on the 19th this month.

Seems like she's planing to keep busy this year as well.
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