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Old 2010.01.17, 11:18 AM   #81
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Finally saw Inglorious Basterds last night. It was pretty close to perfect.
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Old 2010.01.17, 01:11 PM   #82
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Avatar is at 1.68 Billion Dollars. Only 0.12 Billion more to beat Titanic and become the must successful movie of all time
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Avatar is at 1.68 Billion Dollars. Only 0.12 Billion more to beat Titanic and become the must successful movie of all time
That's intense. Like, holy crap James Cameron.
But even if it is another one of his movies, I'm fine with anything taking over Titanic. 'Cause at least it's one of his Sci-fi ones (what he's mostly done anyway) and anything finally taking over Titanic is good with me. That one's been on top for far too long.
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If you take inflation into account, then Avatar doesn't beat Titanic

But if you do that, Titanic wouldn't be on top to begin with, because then "Gone with the wind" would still be on top

Also, Avatar just won the golden globe for best Drama Motion Picture and best Director.
I think it would be cool if Zoe Saldana as Neytiri would even get nominated for an oscar, that would mean a lot for the technology Cameron created. I think even more than getting the Oscar for best Motion Picture.
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But if you do that, Titanic wouldn't be on top to begin with, because then "Gone with the wind" would still be on top
Which is why adjusting for inflation is the best. Gone With the Wind is the awesomest and then Star Wars has its rightful place at number 2.

But still, Titanic is looming over those other charts. Ughhh, that movie. However much I love Kate Winslet and Victor Garber... ughs.
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Originally Posted by mizer_unmei View Post
Which is why adjusting for inflation is the best. Gone With the Wind is the awesomest and then Star Wars has its rightful place at number 2.

But still, Titanic is looming over those other charts. Ughhh, that movie. However much I love Kate Winslet and Victor Garber... ughs.
adjusting for inflation doesn't work, because getting getting an audience into theaters now is many times harder than it was years and years ago. I mean, the fact that Avatar is doing as well as it is in this economic climate, and a lot of that being IMAX tickets, is pretty remarkable. just comparing inflated ticket prices and admissions doesn't work, because there are a lot of other factors to consider. I mean, when Star Wars and Titanic both were released getting an audience into a movie theatre wasn't nearly as difficult as it has been in the last few years. Between the advancement in home theatre technology, piracy on the internet, the economic recession, and the skyrocketing price of admissions, Avatar's success *now* is much more remarkable than Titanic or Star Wars was back in their heydays. Hollywood is in a terrible recession and Avatar's success is even more remarkable because of that.

still, best picture? that was a real surprise. take a huge commercial pop corn flick and give it best drama golden globe, its almost ironic in a way.
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^^^ Hollywood is not really in a "recession" right now....it just set a record for box office admissions. It's creatively near-bankrupt, but that's a different issue.

Gone With the Wind has always been and always will be the biggest hit of all time. No way can any film really match it unless something like the equivalent of 3 or 4 Avatars comes out. The factor to account for is not just revenue adjusted for inflation or number of admissions, but the percentage of viewers related to the population of America at the time.

Gone With the Wind sold 208,000,000 tickets in America through its initial run and releases. In 1939, the population of America was 131,000,000. So, basically, if you were living in America in 1939 you saw this movie. Which is four hours long.

By contrast, Avatar has so far sold about 70 million tickets at most. The average $7.35 they use to calculate for inflation is probably skewing low for Avatar, which had the more expensive IMAX tickets to take into account. The average ticket price for Avatar might be closer to 9 dollars, which would mean about 57 million tickets sold.

In other words, Avatar is currently between 1/4 and 1/3 of Gone With the Wind's box office. And in a country of over 250 million people, certainly a far smaller percentage of the population is going to see this than Gone With the Wind.

Neither one of these films is all that good, by the way.
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Gone With the Wind is the bestttt. "I don't know nothing about birthin' babies." Bwahaha. That and Viven Leigh is perfect.

And Avatar is selling so much because James Cameron cracked the secret of putting crack in movies and has thus hypnotized the whole world. It's like blue crack. The necklace thing in Titanic was blue. And he had been testing it out before too. I've seen The Abyss!

Aaaand this is funny. Teehee.
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Originally Posted by NIMH Rat View Post
^^^ Hollywood is not really in a "recession" right now....it just set a record for box office admissions. It's creatively near-bankrupt, but that's a different issue.

Gone With the Wind has always been and always will be the biggest hit of all time. No way can any film really match it unless something like the equivalent of 3 or 4 Avatars comes out. The factor to account for is not just revenue adjusted for inflation or number of admissions, but the percentage of viewers related to the population of America at the time.

Gone With the Wind sold 208,000,000 tickets in America through its initial run and releases. In 1939, the population of America was 131,000,000. So, basically, if you were living in America in 1939 you saw this movie. Which is four hours long.

By contrast, Avatar has so far sold about 70 million tickets at most. The average $7.35 they use to calculate for inflation is probably skewing low for Avatar, which had the more expensive IMAX tickets to take into account. The average ticket price for Avatar might be closer to 9 dollars, which would mean about 57 million tickets sold.

In other words, Avatar is currently between 1/4 and 1/3 of Gone With the Wind's box office. And in a country of over 250 million people, certainly a far smaller percentage of the population is going to see this than Gone With the Wind.

Neither one of these films is all that good, by the way.
but none of that matters because your not taking into account the economic climate of the time or technology. seriously, when gone with the wind came out what else were you going to do besides go and watch it repeatedly? its not like you could wait for a blu ray release three months later to purchase at almost the same cost of driving to a theatre and price of admission, or boot up the old pc and download it, or head over to china town and buy a 1 dollar bootleg. do you see what I am getting at? straight up statistics and numbers reporting inflation and percentage of total americans who view a movie are bs. especially if you want to talk about a movie like Twilight/New Moon, which is seeing target audiences returning to the threatres time after time, so it looks like a larger portion of the population has seen it, but in reality its just repeat viewings.
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If anyone is interested, these are the first two shots from the directors cut of Avatar:

A scene on earth after jake got into a barfight, and the dying scene of Tsu'Tey after his fall from the helicopter.
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