SR/TJ songs being recycled
 

Have you heard any songs that once you heard it...
:hmph:"Hmmm, I must have heard it before"...
:whacko: "No i didn't, but why it sounds so familiar"...
:blink: "Can't it be copying from(or borrowing ideas from or sounding similar to) a song of SR/TJ?!"...
:o "Oh! It is____!"

Here is my example:

Aiko - Shiawase

I do not think Aiko intentionally copied from Ringo, but it at least made me think in the way I mentioned above starting from 1:30, and "Oh! It is Suberidai - One of my favourties!"

I don't know, I've heard this song many times and I never once felt that it sounded like a Ringo song.

its definitely plagiarism I can totally hear it from 1;30 from what you said. However, it suberdai even released? i dont think it was released officially.

Your reply is so fast @_@
I've heard it two or three times before, but I just had that feeling last time I heard it again.
You can try to hear it again and compare it with Suberidai.

if one or two lines sounds familiar then its okay, maybe coincidence, but we are talking about the whole chorus here. lolz

It was released in the revised version of Konfukuron: http://www.emimusic.jp/vmc/artist/do.../toct22011.php
(すべりだい = Suberidai)

I don't know, I guess they sound somewhat similar, but I couldn't consider it plagiarism.

Ha, I'm always surprised for some reason that Aiko is still around... I remember really liking some of her songs from her first two albums, but then I completely forget about her...

Hmmmm... I don't find any similarities... I love both songs, though.

Actually, I went back to compare them and they sound a little similar. But, yea, I wouldn't call it plagiarism either since the main similarity is just the flow of the chorus. But, I don't really know what you can really call plagiarism in music, unless its like unauthorized sampling or something like that.

Nice feel-good pop song!
The first line of the chorus totally sounds like Suberidai, and the whole song has the feel of Marunouchi Sadistic. Sounds like something a younger Ringo would sing.
I wouldn't call it plagiarism though. The chord progression is kinda different. And many songs sound like this anyway.

And Suberidai was also released on the very first Koufukuron single o_O Its first appearance was not the re-release.

As for the Aiko song, it just makes me want to go listen to Suberidai. XD This also explains why my (Korean)native-Japanese-speaker friend was a fan of both Aiko and SR.

You are right! I missed it O_o

I think this "part of their work" can be as small as a few lines in the chorus. But whether you "pretend that is your own" work can be arguable.

Perhaps aiko heard Ringo's Suberidai, from which part of the melody turned into her memory. And when she wrote Shiawase, she mistakenly toke out some melody lines from her memory instead of the creativity center of her brain (and was amazed by herself that she wrote an excellent chorus:P)


No one ever heard a song similar to SR/TJ's? This thread is becoming an Aiko thread:whacko:

When was Suberidai & Marusade like other pop songs? you can never judge SR songs' quality with progressions. She (well, the pre-HF she) always managed to give brilliant fresh melodies out of those old common chord progressions. I call this genius.

Hint: Aiko debuted along with Ringo in the same music contest (Yamaha Music Quest '96). But most of her famous work are released after year 2000. Now a teenpop idol, she's actually even 3 years older than Ringo.

yep, the song released only in the re-release was toki ga bousou suru =)

and.. whats chirinuruwowaka's drummer doing in this pv?! XDDDDD

I was referring to the general "feel-good" quality of the of the songs. Many UA songs have that quality, as well as Yamashita Tatsuro's.

It sounds vaguely similar to Suberidai, but I doubt Ringo can rush out to a lawyer to collect.

ah, this artist is just what I needed right now! every song I've listened to of hers has been really quite good. :D and it's all so happy.

aiko and SR are friends, I'm sure one day they were togheter and...

aiko: õ.õ suddenly I want to make a song very alike your suderidai and marusadi, any problem with this?
SR: not at all o.O
aiko: yey /o/

This is the best interpretation.-_-

By the way...
The awardsssss-winning producer from Hong Kong, Mark Lui, who is infamous for plagiarism, has been accused of plagiarising the arrangement of Gibusu for this song:

>>Click if you don't mind listening to bad song<<

My opinion:
I can feel that he tried to imitate Gibusu, but he failed to do so, that's why I don't blame him for plagiarism:P

I liked it XD
don't know why

MuhaHHAHahA, my god that was terrible. Since I was born in Hong Kong I would like to apoligize to the rest of the world for the crap that they produce.

The first time I heard Gips, I was thinking of Britney Spears' "I'm Not A Girl, Not Yet A Woman" for just a tiny bit. The "I'm not a girl" part is the same as the "Anatawa" part of Gips.

That's probably purely coincidental though as it is only like one measure. :)

I wonder if there will be a point where creating any song will be exactly like a song that already existed before. There can only be so many combinations of notes and rhythms.

I'm from Hong Kong too! - but just not brave enough to admit it when I was posting HK pop music:P


Frankly I don't think that song was that bad, but the producer - I really dislike him.

Anyway... Gips and I'm Not a Girl??:blink: Ringo and Britney??:whacko:

^ I think that the instrumental arrangement was terrible, like most HK songs. I didn't like the lyrics either (Chinese lyrics are terrible nowadays, so bland and they chose the worst words...). The singer is ok (Kelly Chen, rite?), too bad she has to sing garbage like this all the time.

aiko's entire career was built on Suberedai-type of music. She has alot of original hits even without that sound-alike song, so I'll let that one...slide.

check this out

Marunouchi Jheri Curls

also the scat solo from jazz a gogo is recycled by Ukigumo on a certain Adult track. if you heard Utaite Myoli, then you know what I'm talking about.

guess the solo

and I posted in another thread this recycled melody

guess the kyoiku song

I would like to add this, as a friend pointed out to me:

what melody line comes to mind

But her song is still so sexygood

Ohh!! Juju did a cover of that song, "and I like it"!! I was cracking my head thinking of who it was, but I finally got it. ^_^

I've listened to Grover's Just the Two of Us for the longest time, and I haven't made the connection with SR'S song until now that you mention it. :O It's a big enough difference though. (:

you stumped me. I dont know what song that sounds like! what is it?

okay, see if you can get this one, imagine a saloon piano playing backup:

guess the TokyoJihen song

guess the TokyoJihen song2

guess the TokyoJihen song3

Oh, I don't find any similarities in the two first songs, but the last one is obviously Toumei Ningen :O.

the first for me sounds a BIT like tasogare naki...

Tasogare Naki, Crawl, and Toumei Ningen.


And the song that Grover's Just the Two of Us sounds a bit like is Marunouchi Sadistic..

damn wheres the video I put here?!


:whacko: guess whats that song

How about this one..

guess the Shiina Ringo song

I'm guessing OSCA. and that's not a SR song.

Nope.. the intro of Identity.

The drumming sounds much more like Kronekodow though.

I was listening to it and thought it sounded....really simmilar. At some point she thought she was about to sing suberidai...

If Ringo did a version of suberidai in this style, it might sound good.