[TJ] 2007.11.21 - Senkou Shoujo (DVD) [PV Collection]

[EmilScherbe]

Originally Posted by Lena-chan

I found an interview about Senkou Shoujo on youtube

Kameda said about Senkou Shoujo:

In chilly winter day, a middle school or 6th grade girl
wearing hooded down jacket was walking. Seeing her innocent look
in the hood, he was anxious about her future. Imaging it made him
throbbing, then wanted to make it as a song.

[Lena-chan]

so kameda always have this kind of thoughs when he writes a song?
that would explain why his songs are so poppy

[Tokyo Jihad]

Late to the party

Originally Posted by Maou

You'll probably have to sacrifice Hedo, Tsuchiya and Fluffie to the rock gods for that to happen. I don't think they'll go down without a fight.

Ohh, thats why Maou is da mang. =D Cept save Fluffie, send a few of the "Super-Friends" instead for filler.

Originally Posted by EmilScherbe

In chilly winter day, a middle school or 6th grade girl
wearing hooded down jacket was walking. Seeing her innocent look
in the hood, he was anxious about her future. Imaging it made him
throbbing, then wanted to make it as a song.

If there was ever a more apt time for .....


Anyway, the song. At the risk of me becoming unpopular with my friends, i dont think this song is "shit" as some have painted it. I think its a solid song. Its Kameda, its pop-rock, and i think Kameda knows how to make a song that isn't shit (save his deformation of Toumei Ningen.)
Howevva the most INTRIGUING sentiments posted have been, "its not Shiina grade." And you guys are right. It doesn't sound like anything Shiina would produce.....but then some have deluded themselves into thinking Botoumin/SSAW/Kronekodo are songs Shiina would produce. Shiina is not normally so overt in her pop. Gunjo was pretty pop, but there was a certain edge administered to it (as Justin pointed out)

Now, addressing the other idea in there of Shiina quality. What I find most interesting is that I'm sure there was a time this song would have been a slap in the face. But perhaps my expectations of "Shiina quality" has dropped so drastically that this is not only acceptable, but defendable.

Lately "Shiina quality" has included songs that I question can even be conceived as "musical in nature." This, song at least, has a generic pop-rock quality going for it, and can be heard and not feel embarrassed for the artist. Which is more than at least half of Variety can say/

[kuro_neko]

um gunjo biyori was written by H Zett M

and everytime someone mentions "shiina quality" I laugh to myself. What is Shiina quality?

[Lena-chan]

Originally Posted by kuro_neko

What is Shiina quality?

dunno but listening SS and KSK I perfectly understand what it is

[HEDOfloe]

Originally Posted by Tokyo Jihad

Late to the party


Ohh, thats why Maou is da mang. =D Cept save Fluffie, send a few of the "Super-Friends" instead for filler.




Anyway, the song. At the risk of me becoming unpopular with my friends, i dont think this song is "shit" as some have painted it. I think its a solid song. Its Kameda, its pop-rock, and i think Kameda knows how to make a song that isn't shit (save his deformation of Toumei Ningen.)
Howevva the most INTRIGUING sentiments posted have been, "its not Shiina grade." And you guys are right. It doesn't sound like anything Shiina would produce.....but then some have deluded themselves into thinking Botoumin/SSAW/Kronekodo are songs Shiina would produce. Shiina is not normally so overt in her pop. Gunjo was pretty pop, but there was a certain edge administered to it (as Justin pointed out)

I don't remember if I had replied to Maou's quote, but I wanted to ask: why is it that if we like Variety we can't possibly like rock?? Last time I checked, I didn't join this forum after Variety was released. I also don't remember Uki and Izawa being the composers for the band before Variety and the band only making "pop" music.

Also, everyone knows ""its not Shiina grade" because she didn't write it so how could it be up to her standards? I'm also curious about this tidbit:

"but then some have deluded themselves into thinking Botoumin/SSAW/Kronekodo are songs Shiina would produce"

Where did you get that idea?

[Tokyo Jihad]

Tegami, Gunjo, Superstar weren't written by Shiina, yet were "Shiina quality"

[HEDOfloe]

I like how you completely avoided my other question.

[Tokyo Jihad]

There are people that think the trinity of suck on Variety are actually good...*shrug*
Its not like you don't know what I think about the album and those 3 songs hedo.

[Cosmo!]

Ugh. I'm with Jihad on this Botoumin/SSAW issue. These songs are just awful to me. I actually like Kronekodow, because I've always been partial to circus/dance of the seven gypsies music.