[TJ] 2007.11.21 - Senkou Shoujo (DVD) [PV Collection]

[Maou]

Originally Posted by HEDOfloe

EDIT: Shouso Strip has more Variety than the work of three people because Ringo is superhuman! She has no equal! I ruv her ^__^

Reviving an old Maou trend:

Cocco, Bonnie Pink, PJ Harvey, Mikami Chisako, Yuki Chikudate, Annie Clark, Suzuki Yukiko, and Chrissie Hynde are/were all better than the current day SR you love and come close to old SR in some ways.

[HEDOfloe]

If you think any of their compositions were better than Kyouki and ADULT compositions, I can't argue or agree because that's just you. BUT, if they can only come close to old Ringo, then I can only say that Ringo pwns all of them for the mere fact that she can compose all her old stuff and all the latest stuff.

[Cosmo!]

Shiina Ringo was not some perfect goddess of music who could do no wrong. But she was brash, weird, aggressive, unconventional, confrontational and unafraid to take risks. Even when those risks didn't always pan out so well, at least we could appreciate the effort. I'll use Utaite Myori as an example: she took classic songs (some more classic than others, of course) and put her weird little spin on them. That album is just chock full of questionable track/style choices, but at least we could tack on some superlatives like "avant garde" and "diverse" and "daring" and enjoy the album for being so strange.

Nowadays, I don't even know what to think. She's like that one soccer mom who gets her hair cut at Supercuts and drives a big van and always votes Republican and bakes cookies for the swimming team cook-out and drinks a few too many Bloody Maries and continues to embarrass herself by singing Michael Bolton karaoke in front of teenagers who think "Who's corny yuppie mom is that?" Something like that.

[Maou]

Originally Posted by HEDOfloe

If you think any of their compositions were better than Kyouki and ADULT compositions, I can't argue or agree because that's just you. BUT, if they can only come close to old Ringo, then I can only say that Ringo pwns all of them for the mere fact that she can compose all her old stuff and all the latest stuff.

It's when you factor in everything. Nobody has the whole package like old Ringo did, but they beat her in individual categories. For example, Cocco and Chisako are better singers while Chrissie and Yukiko do the badass guitar chick thing better than Ringo. Old Ringo is only a tiny bit above them because she was so weird, but current Ringo is bottom tier bore.

[HEDOfloe]

But if you "factor in everything" then you are comparing the "whole package" which you said no one has like old Ringo so I don't agree with your first post. You should have just said that you liked what other women did in different categories instead of making a whole generalization about them being better than Ringo.

[Maou]

I thought I did, but worded it into a way to start discussion with you. Howeva, old Cocco is > old SR. Old Cocco did everything old SR did, but with more soul.

[Tokyo Jihad]

The thing about "the whole package" tho, is that it counts nu-Shiina. To see Maou and Cosmo's descriptions of nu-Shiina make me wonder if the forums even need me anymore

[HEDOfloe]

Well, I just mentioned in the random thread that I'm an English major, which is why I always have problems with the way people word things. Which, I guess this answers the question Jihad put to me that if I was into math or something. I've been taught to close-read, close-read, and close-read and that the author always means what they write, so to find symbolic meaning is to understand exactly what they wrote and not some artsy ideal or concept that people think poems and other literature seem to have.

[Tokyo Jihad]

Originally Posted by HEDOfloe

Words

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[HEDOfloe]

Words are fascinating! You'd be surprised at the things people say or hint at without even noticing that they are revealing something.