2011-2012 Jihen Releases & Tour Discussion - Page 48

baruga · 2011.04.11, 02:28 PM

I'd much rather a diverse genre-breaking album (In the style of Sanmon Gossip and albums with Jihen) then one that is very experimental but the songs kind of blend together anyways like on SS and KZK.

cjhobbies00 · 2011.04.11, 02:34 PM

I'm gone for a year and it's still New Ringo vs. Old Ringo.

I held the faintest hope that I would come back and find a new album that was SS 2nd coming. Oh well...back to TPBPH.

TurtleFu · 2011.04.11, 04:34 PM

Your expectations ruin you.

Shiina does not have one bad album. But people have RIDICULOUS expectations for her so every time she releases something they treat it like it is the shittiest thing EVAR and throw a hissy fit.

Have no expectations, and you will be amazed out how good her catalog is. Have expectations and whine about everything and anything

cjhobbies00 · 2011.04.11, 04:52 PM

Muhahah, a year ago I would've ranted on and on about Variety and I would have had a 5 page back and forth pissing contest with you...maturity

Being a fan doesn't mean that you shouldn't have expectations. I expected her to continue to put out good albums. It didn't happen but I'm not resentful, just disappointed.

gekokujyo · 2011.04.12, 03:45 AM

...but... Variety was a great album.

And Sports even better!

TurtleFu · 2011.04.12, 06:30 AM

Listen, I had not listened to Variety until AFTER I started lurking on this forum.
I kept on reading about how everyone treated Variety like it was the single worst album EVAR, and so my expectations were really low.

Yet, I ended up liking it a lot. Sure, it was a pop album, not a rock album, but the songs were really good. It had rock, jazz, and funky influences. I liked Izawa's Killer Tune, Kingyo no Hako, and Kronekodow, and Uki's Ramp, Mirrorball, OSCA, Boutoumin, and Fukushu.

Everyone's expectations of the album, as disillusioned Shiina fans, thought "Well, Shiina isn't writing it, so it must be shit". But Uki and Izawa are just as much musicians as Shiina is, and they are both talented songwriters.

(Double posted in Variety thread for good measure)

deadgrandma · 2011.04.12, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by TurtleFu

Listen, I had not listened to Variety until AFTER I started lurking on this forum.
I kept on reading about how everyone treated Variety like it was the single worst album EVAR, and so my expectations were really low.

Yet, I ended up liking it a lot. Sure, it was a pop album, not a rock album, but the songs were really good. It had rock, jazz, and funky influences. I liked Izawa's Killer Tune, Kingyo no Hako, and Kronekodow, and Uki's Ramp, Mirrorball, OSCA, Boutoumin, and Fukushu.

Everyone's expectations of the album, as disillusioned Shiina fans, thought "Well, Shiina isn't writing it, so it must be shit". But Uki and Izawa are just as much musicians as Shiina is, and they are both talented songwriters.

(Double posted in Variety thread for good measure)

I also like Variety a lot. A LOT.

justriiingo · 2011.04.13, 03:41 AM

Just to comment on the stuff in the prev pages...

I was at JCHI and it was a fantastic concert. The DVD however, is quite idiotic.

And. I still cannot believe that people like Variety. To me it's so bland... with the exceptions of Kingyo no Hako and Metro.

And. I'm not a hater. Just an ex-lover. Who's moved on to better lovers, btw.

deadgrandma · 2011.04.13, 06:32 AM

Originally Posted by justriiingo

Just to comment on the stuff in the prev pages...

I was at JCHI and it was a fantastic concert. The DVD however, is quite idiotic.

And. I still cannot believe that people like Variety. To me it's so bland... with the exceptions of Kingyo no Hako and Metro.

And. I'm not a hater. Just an ex-lover. Who's moved on to better lovers, btw.

this is me. But with tori amos. Ringo hasn't released an Abnormally Attracted to Sin yet (sickly awful). Bjork better be careful too, volta wasn't exactly album of the year either.

kuro_neko · 2011.04.13, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by deadgrandma

this is me. But with tori amos. Ringo hasn't released an Abnormally Attracted to Sin yet (sickly awful). Bjork better be careful too, volta wasn't exactly album of the year either.

off topic but I feel the same with Tori, although I disagree with AATS. I'm a Venus and Choirgirl boy and AATS was like Choirgirl, Venus, and Scarlet had some random baby. But American Doll Posse was meh and I didn't dig Midwinter Graces too much either.

2011.04.11, 02:34 PM	#472
cjhobbies00 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,873	I'm gone for a year and it's still New Ringo vs. Old Ringo. I held the faintest hope that I would come back and find a new album that was SS 2nd coming. Oh well...back to TPBPH. __________________ The man who does not listen to good music has no advantage over the man who is deaf. -bastardized Twain quote. http://www.last.fm/user/cjhobbies00

2011.04.11, 04:52 PM	#474
cjhobbies00 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,873	Muhahah, a year ago I would've ranted on and on about Variety and I would have had a 5 page back and forth pissing contest with you...maturity Being a fan doesn't mean that you shouldn't have expectations. I expected her to continue to put out good albums. It didn't happen but I'm not resentful, just disappointed. __________________ The man who does not listen to good music has no advantage over the man who is deaf. -bastardized Twain quote. http://www.last.fm/user/cjhobbies00

2011.04.13, 03:41 AM	#478
justriiingo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SGP. Posts: 2,664	Just to comment on the stuff in the prev pages... I was at JCHI and it was a fantastic concert. The DVD however, is quite idiotic. And. I still cannot believe that people like Variety. To me it's so bland... with the exceptions of Kingyo no Hako and Metro. And. I'm not a hater. Just an ex-lover. Who's moved on to better lovers, btw. __________________ "You gotta have freedom! You gotta have freedom. You gotta have peace of mind! You gotta have peace of mind."

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2011.04.11, 02:28 PM	#471
baruga Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 65	I'd much rather a diverse genre-breaking album (In the style of Sanmon Gossip and albums with Jihen) then one that is very experimental but the songs kind of blend together anyways like on SS and KZK.

2011.04.11, 04:34 PM	#473
TurtleFu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,592	Your expectations ruin you. Shiina does not have one bad album. But people have RIDICULOUS expectations for her so every time she releases something they treat it like it is the shittiest thing EVAR and throw a hissy fit. Have no expectations, and you will be amazed out how good her catalog is. Have expectations and whine about everything and anything

2011.04.12, 03:45 AM	#475
gekokujyo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 683	...but... Variety was a great album. And Sports even better!

2011.04.12, 06:30 AM	#476
TurtleFu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,592	Listen, I had not listened to Variety until AFTER I started lurking on this forum. I kept on reading about how everyone treated Variety like it was the single worst album EVAR, and so my expectations were really low. Yet, I ended up liking it a lot. Sure, it was a pop album, not a rock album, but the songs were really good. It had rock, jazz, and funky influences. I liked Izawa's Killer Tune, Kingyo no Hako, and Kronekodow, and Uki's Ramp, Mirrorball, OSCA, Boutoumin, and Fukushu. Everyone's expectations of the album, as disillusioned Shiina fans, thought "Well, Shiina isn't writing it, so it must be shit". But Uki and Izawa are just as much musicians as Shiina is, and they are both talented songwriters. (Double posted in Variety thread for good measure)