2011-2012 Jihen Releases & Tour Discussion - Page 57

TurtleFu · 2011.04.30, 12:49 PM

Oh god. If there is ANYTHING I hate more, it is making something "ironic" (but not really ironic) to be "artistic".
"I made something shitty but it's actually really artsy because it's ironic!"
The internet killed true "irony" years ago.
Shiina Ringo = Hipster?

EDIT: I'm so sorry I forgot to thank you, Nimh! Thank you so much!

Orenji · 2011.04.30, 01:09 PM

Thanks Nimh! Anything about the new album and the fall tour?

deadgrandma · 2011.04.30, 06:07 PM

Shiina Ringo is too hip to be a hipster. She's a cool cat.

ShadyNook · 2011.04.30, 07:24 PM

all the costume changes in the Onnanoko pv make sense after reading that.

heck, all the costume changes from her solo days make sense after reading that!

Nimh · 2011.05.01, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Orenji

Thanks Nimh! Anything about the new album and the fall tour?

No, but plenty about the single, the videos for the single, working habits, Hata, the earthquake, and reflections on Sports and Ultra C.

I'll read in more detail but there's no big "let's talk about the album and tour" section of the interview.

Carlx · 2011.05.01, 10:51 AM

But that doesn't make too much sense - during the Ultra C tour she has had costume changes as well, being the last one (which looked like a ballet dress) not what a mature woman would wear, precisely.

By the way, she still looks great in that kind of costumes, I'd say she's overreacting or, better said, early-reacting to the passing of time.

deadgrandma · 2011.05.01, 05:00 PM

... or she's just saying that to get interview over and done with

Maou · 2011.05.02, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Nimh

If I'm reading this right, what's interesting is how the magazine (which comes across as an "official line," not the exclusive opinion of the writer) describes the Shiina Ringo of the past--the solo artist, the hitmaker of MM and SS--as someone expressing an adolescent identity struggle, and for Shiina herself, that was not to be standard music forever.

She said essentially the same thing in the pre-Kyouiku interviews. She said she no longer wanted to write those kind of songs, but wished to express a more romantic side by saying "I love you" in different ways and with different meanings.

Andikki · 2011.05.02, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by ChickShhh

Main TV channels in Japan:

(SHOWA TV)

Originally Posted by ShadyNook

Album of my dreams.

I can hear you, pal.

kuro_neko · 2011.05.02, 05:59 PM

and thus the paradox.

is it not the quandary of adolescence that prompts teenagers to do this or not do that?

If Ringo is caught up in writing music that is intentionally unlike the work she had created in MM/SS eras, she hasn't really changed. Isn't it arguable that she was freer back then, when making music was enjoyable and she did as she pleased? It seems not a single interview goes by where she doesn't get asked or talk about having to escape this previous image of herself that forever seems to hunt her.

When I think of adults and maturity I think of people who aren't necessarily upset by revealing their immature sides. when I think of immature teenagers I think of kids with these trumped up notions of maturity and importance.

its kind of sad, I wish Ringo would just make music to make music, to experiment and create, and not intentionally set out to write things that are purposefully NOT this and NOT that, etc.

it probably explains why most of us stopped caring a while back.

2011.04.30, 12:49 PM	#561
TurtleFu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,592	Oh god. If there is ANYTHING I hate more, it is making something "ironic" (but not really ironic) to be "artistic". "I made something shitty but it's actually really artsy because it's ironic!" The internet killed true "irony" years ago. Shiina Ringo = Hipster? EDIT: I'm so sorry I forgot to thank you, Nimh! Thank you so much! Last edited by TurtleFu : 2011.05.01 at 05:27 PM.

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2011.05.01, 10:51 AM	#566
Carlx Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 429	But that doesn't make too much sense - during the Ultra C tour she has had costume changes as well, being the last one (which looked like a ballet dress) not what a mature woman would wear, precisely. By the way, she still looks great in that kind of costumes, I'd say she's overreacting or, better said, early-reacting to the passing of time.

2011.05.01, 05:00 PM	#567
deadgrandma Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,766	... or she's just saying that to get interview over and done with

2011.05.02, 05:59 PM	#570
kuro_neko Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: World's End Posts: 2,991	and thus the paradox. is it not the quandary of adolescence that prompts teenagers to do this or not do that? If Ringo is caught up in writing music that is intentionally unlike the work she had created in MM/SS eras, she hasn't really changed. Isn't it arguable that she was freer back then, when making music was enjoyable and she did as she pleased? It seems not a single interview goes by where she doesn't get asked or talk about having to escape this previous image of herself that forever seems to hunt her. When I think of adults and maturity I think of people who aren't necessarily upset by revealing their immature sides. when I think of immature teenagers I think of kids with these trumped up notions of maturity and importance. its kind of sad, I wish Ringo would just make music to make music, to experiment and create, and not intentionally set out to write things that are purposefully NOT this and NOT that, etc. it probably explains why most of us stopped caring a while back.