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Old 2009.07.24, 09:55 PM   #731
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Rinne Highlight's a half cover but it is all bad.
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Old 2009.07.24, 09:55 PM   #732
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Originally Posted by Cosmo! View Post
I'm pretty sure Rinne Highlight is also a cover.

It's a partial cover of No Kind of Love, by Susanna Hoffs. And I happen to really like it
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Old 2009.07.25, 12:01 AM   #733
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I like Rinne Highlight too. For the longest time Honnou was the only single of hers that I owned, mainly for that song.
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Old 2009.07.25, 02:19 AM   #734
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How can you possible NOT like Rinne Highlight?
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Old 2009.07.25, 02:31 AM   #735
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Rinne Highlight is a really nice gentle piece of jazz. I've picked it out to listen to from Watashi to Houden several times so I wouldn't call it throwaway.

Youtube links to Susanna Hoffs No Kind Of Love and the LAY DOWN demo that has some of the same lyrics.

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Old 2009.07.25, 03:23 AM   #736
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Rinne Highlight gets more hate than it deserves!

What is it you're trying to say? Da da da da da da lover. You act so tough you act so clean you're on a voice on da machine

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More off topicness:
LAY DOWN also has parts of My Side of the Bed, also by Susanna Hoffs. I have her "When You're A Boy" album and really like it.
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for it to be a proper cover, ringo would have to admit she isn't plagiarizing and give credit to the original composer/artist. she does none of that, if you look it up the entire Honnou single, all 3 tracks, is attributed to music and lyrics by Ringo.
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all lyrics might be attributed to Ringo, but she didn't write all of them, so that's plagiarism, right? no matter if she admits to it or not, it's still plagiarism. the lyrics are almost entirely identical, so it is a cover. if it contains 50%, 75% or 90% of the original song's lyrics, it's still a cover.

I could, for instance, sing a Beatles song, change the title, omit a few words, slap on an original line at the very end and never credit Lennon/McCartney but it's still a cover, whether I own up to it or not.
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Originally Posted by Cosmo! View Post
all lyrics might be attributed to Ringo, but she didn't write all of them, so that's plagiarism, right? no matter if she admits to it or not, it's still plagiarism. the lyrics are almost entirely identical, so it is a cover. if it contains 50%, 75% or 90% of the original song's lyrics, it's still a cover.

I could, for instance, sing a Beatles song, change the title, omit a few words, slap on an original line at the very end and never credit Lennon/McCartney but it's still a cover, whether I own up to it or not.
no, that just makes it plagiarized. to actually legitimately and legally "cover" a song you need to get permission and legal rights on top of crediting the original song writers. ringo is entirely credited for the song in the official credits. for all we know ringo doesn't even know she took the lyrics. a lot of times when you are a musician it is a bit dangerous to listen to other artist's work while composing, you might subconsciously add a bit of their work here or there in yours and never see the contribution. Ringo probably knows what she did, but since she treats this song on a legal and personal level as an original composition, I don't think we should classify it as a cover, because that implies what she is doing she did legally (which was not how it happened...)
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