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2007.05.13, 07:32 PM | #61 |
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I think, therefore I am. FACT.
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It's only your opinion that you think.
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How so? The proposition that I am thinking is self evident. Surely the fact that I am thinking verifies the fact that it must be true. You can doubt absolutely anything, but yourself. The only way for something to be untrue is if we are being deceived, or we have a lack of knowledge and understanding. If I am being deceived, I must exist in order to be deceived or else there is nothing to deceive.
Give me one circumstance in which you can deny the existence of your own thought.
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I didn't argue your existence, nor did I argue that you are thinking or are not thinking. I stated it was your opinion that you are thinking. Verity and truth are funny words -- what's associated with them is constantly changing. A thousand years ago or two it was considered truth/fact that the Earth was the center of the universe. Why? Simply because the opinion was widely agreed upon.
I could easily claim that a greater power has controlled my mind and forced me to think the thoughts I do. Ever heard of brain-washing? |
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I am breaking up my love affair with how much people are stating opinion as fact in this thread. I just feel so alone in this relationship....It's not working.
//runs crying
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I am not arguing the existence of anybodies thoughts but my own, in your case it will be your own. Hence 'I think, therefore I am'.
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fact, opinion, opinion, fact.
nothing is absolute.
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Ew, Matrix references.
If the thoughts are being implanted in my head, they are not truly my thoughts. Also, if the thoughts are implanted into me I don't actually have my own thoughts and thus cannot be deceived. Simply controlled. Tools and robots do not think so by your borrowed logic they must not exist. |
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I never said the thought had to be your own, only that you had to think it. No matter what the source of the thought, it is the fact that you are thinking it which is wholly true. If you want to deny this thought just because it may not be your own, then I can just dilute the phrase to 'Thinking is occurring'. Either way, we end up with a fact.
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