The Shaki Thread (Shakira) - Page 4

bromithia · 2009.11.27, 06:26 PM

I also changed my mind on the new track, lol. I hate Lil Wayne's part, but it's a catchy song and it fits the Shakira vibe. Her performance at the AMAs was also pretty cool.

kuro_neko · 2009.11.29, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by bromithia

I also changed my mind on the new track, lol. I hate Lil Wayne's part, but it's a catchy song and it fits the Shakira vibe. Her performance at the AMAs was also pretty cool.

people said her perfromance was weak...I think in the age of gaga people have lost the ability to appreciate a fine performance. I mean, nothing against Gaga, but you don't need to run around the stage making out with your keyboardist and crotching-face-smashing your dancers (I'm talking to you adam lambert) to put on a good show. the worst part? everyone says she is a beyonce wannabe. she has pigeon-holed herself a bit, so now everytime she doesn't do a freakish contortionist-like dance people say she is ripping off beyonce, which is LAME.

bromithia · 2009.11.29, 05:06 PM

I mean, it wasn't a particularly strong performance in any way, but at the same time the song doesn't really showcase any of her talent at all, so yeah. And Adam Lambert's performance was just awful.

frecklegirl · 2009.12.11, 02:54 PM

I really don't care for this latest album and especially the tack-on singles (looks like "Give it up to me" is this time around's "Hips Don't Lie", I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE RE-RELEASING THE ALBUM WITH A NEW TRACKLISTING AGAIN) with random-ass rappers who don't fit at all. I hate "Give it up to me." Ugh.

Do music studios just have nothing better to do with crossover artists than make them all sound the same and boring and vaguely RnB-ish because "that's what people want"? Because this sounds way too much like Utada's recent U.S. album for my comfort ("Did It Again" especially). It doesn't sound like a Shakira album to me at all. I'm not surprised by the Beyoncé comparisons because they really did make Shakira ape her, thinking "that's what will sell." It feels heartless; I don't ever feel that warmth from it. So here's hoping its Spanish follow-up is a LOT better. Since that one won't be subject to the whims of a desperate, bottom-line do-whatever-we-think-will-sell-regardless-of-quality American studio, I suspect it will be much better.

zyoeru · 2010.01.01, 06:37 PM

I like She Wolf, but I've gotta agree, the Spanish album definitely will be much better.

Mr Sands · 2010.05.16, 01:44 PM

What are opinions on her World Cup song?
I think it's a great, catchy little song.

zyoeru · 2010.05.18, 06:47 PM

I'm with you on that, I'm gonna have to give a few more spins, but it was love at first hearing.

frecklegirl · 2010.05.29, 06:05 PM

I love it toooooo, both versions, I find myself singing along with the African (not sure which language exactly) parts, very catchy.

kuro_neko · 2010.05.29, 09:41 PM

I don't know how I feel about this song. I remember after she did Whenever Wherever/Suerte she refused to typecast herself and release multiple songs with similar flavors. Ever since Hips Don't Lie was a smash success she had similar clones and this Waka Waka track feels a little too similar to what she has been putting out. It is almost like when she releases an album she fills it up with whatever and then drops it entirely upon release to go with a completely different and more commercial single. That or the record label doubts her album and has her record something last minute, slap it on a rerelease, and try and sell records that way (both Hips Don't Lie and Give It Up To Me). This song is arguably less commercial in the US than the majority of She Wolf but on a whole it seems like Shakira's inner pop diva has all but taken over, which is kind of strange considering she has been in diplomat mode this entire era, anytime you read her home page its full of her appearances making speeches over album promotion. its awesome she is working so hard for social rights, if only she would release an actual album representative of that and less about simple drum and bass tunes. they sound good the first few times and get boring super fast.

frecklegirl · 2010.06.04, 10:53 PM

My friend and I just bought tickets to see her in Dallas October 1. Probably the most expensive concert ticket I've ever bought ($99, without fees etc)... but I think it's gonna be worth it. We're super excited.

I like She Wolf more and more with each listen. I especially like a lot of the Spanish versions and the wordplay; she's stopped straight-up translating lyrics from one language to the other and now each version presents a slightly different facet of the song's theme. Pretty cool.

2009.12.11, 02:54 PM	#34
frecklegirl apple-princess Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 2,183	I really don't care for this latest album and especially the tack-on singles (looks like "Give it up to me" is this time around's "Hips Don't Lie", I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'RE RE-RELEASING THE ALBUM WITH A NEW TRACKLISTING AGAIN) with random-ass rappers who don't fit at all. I hate "Give it up to me." Ugh. Do music studios just have nothing better to do with crossover artists than make them all sound the same and boring and vaguely RnB-ish because "that's what people want"? Because this sounds way too much like Utada's recent U.S. album for my comfort ("Did It Again" especially). It doesn't sound like a Shakira album to me at all. I'm not surprised by the Beyoncé comparisons because they really did make Shakira ape her, thinking "that's what will sell." It feels heartless; I don't ever feel that warmth from it. So here's hoping its Spanish follow-up is a LOT better. Since that one won't be subject to the whims of a desperate, bottom-line do-whatever-we-think-will-sell-regardless-of-quality American studio, I suspect it will be much better. __________________ Nostalgic Lavender// Ringo Shiina Translations NL Updates: Twitter \|\| Facebook

2010.05.29, 06:05 PM	#38
frecklegirl apple-princess Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 2,183	I love it toooooo, both versions, I find myself singing along with the African (not sure which language exactly) parts, very catchy. __________________ Nostalgic Lavender// Ringo Shiina Translations NL Updates: Twitter \|\| Facebook

2010.06.04, 10:53 PM	#40
frecklegirl apple-princess Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tokyo Posts: 2,183	My friend and I just bought tickets to see her in Dallas October 1. Probably the most expensive concert ticket I've ever bought ($99, without fees etc)... but I think it's gonna be worth it. We're super excited. I like She Wolf more and more with each listen. I especially like a lot of the Spanish versions and the wordplay; she's stopped straight-up translating lyrics from one language to the other and now each version presents a slightly different facet of the song's theme. Pretty cool. __________________ Nostalgic Lavender// Ringo Shiina Translations NL Updates: Twitter \|\| Facebook

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2009.11.27, 06:26 PM	#31
bromithia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,044	I also changed my mind on the new track, lol. I hate Lil Wayne's part, but it's a catchy song and it fits the Shakira vibe. Her performance at the AMAs was also pretty cool.

2009.11.29, 05:06 PM	#33
bromithia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,044	I mean, it wasn't a particularly strong performance in any way, but at the same time the song doesn't really showcase any of her talent at all, so yeah. And Adam Lambert's performance was just awful.

2010.01.01, 06:37 PM	#35
zyoeru Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 65	I like She Wolf, but I've gotta agree, the Spanish album definitely will be much better.

2010.05.16, 01:44 PM	#36
Mr Sands Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kanagawa, Japan Posts: 152	What are opinions on her World Cup song? I think it's a great, catchy little song.

2010.05.18, 06:47 PM	#37
zyoeru Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 65	I'm with you on that, I'm gonna have to give a few more spins, but it was love at first hearing.

2010.05.29, 09:41 PM	#39
kuro_neko Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: World's End Posts: 2,991	I don't know how I feel about this song. I remember after she did Whenever Wherever/Suerte she refused to typecast herself and release multiple songs with similar flavors. Ever since Hips Don't Lie was a smash success she had similar clones and this Waka Waka track feels a little too similar to what she has been putting out. It is almost like when she releases an album she fills it up with whatever and then drops it entirely upon release to go with a completely different and more commercial single. That or the record label doubts her album and has her record something last minute, slap it on a rerelease, and try and sell records that way (both Hips Don't Lie and Give It Up To Me). This song is arguably less commercial in the US than the majority of She Wolf but on a whole it seems like Shakira's inner pop diva has all but taken over, which is kind of strange considering she has been in diplomat mode this entire era, anytime you read her home page its full of her appearances making speeches over album promotion. its awesome she is working so hard for social rights, if only she would release an actual album representative of that and less about simple drum and bass tunes. they sound good the first few times and get boring super fast.