Solo SR single "Carnation" 11/2

[The Most Curious Thing]

Originally Posted by Andikki

I wouldn't treat カーネーション as an English title. It's a loanword, but I think it's properly Japanese nowadays.

That judgment has to wait for the album cover/booklet, I think.

[karateexplosion]

^And, as far as I know, there isn't a native word in Japanese for "carnation" anyways, so I tend to agree.

[kuro_neko]

Originally Posted by Andikki

I wouldn't treat カーネーション as an English title. It's a loanword, but I think it's properly Japanese nowadays.

I disagree. Loan words are accepted into a language but are still intrinsically foreign. Katakana exists for that entire reason...not all Japanese speakers can identify the origin, there are far too many loan words in Japanese, so I get your point...but Ringo isn't most people. She writes many songs in English with the help of a translator, studied abroad, and has often talked about how she strives to reclaim a modern image of japanese music free of western influence, often giving obtuse readings and classical twists to her lyrics.

[Nimh]

^^^ True, but it seems like a matter of degree sometimes.

カーネーション won't turn heads in Japan, won't get weird glances. A word like エンジョイ, though, seems very foreign.

[kuro_neko]

Originally Posted by Nimh

^^^ True, but it seems like a matter of degree sometimes.

カーネーション won't turn heads in Japan, won't get weird glances. A word like エンジョイ, though, seems very foreign.

you'd be surprised. Shy is an example that sticks out in my mind, a lot of japanese speakers use shy and it sounds very foreign, but a lot of people have no idea its an english term, the amount of times I've used it and had people comment on my grasp of difficult japanese words has been ridiculous.

[Scribble R]

They added more info about the single. It'll be released on November 2, and will include three songs in total. Also, the title track is orchestrated.

[ChickShhh]

Originally Posted by Scribble R

the title track is orchestrated.

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p.s. Jihad do you still keep the bigger version of the cover pic? (before photoshopped)

[deadgrandma]

Originally Posted by Scribble R

the title track is orchestrated.

*places bets on what different people will say to this*

[Scribble R]

It's not really a surprise though, is it? Considering the nature of the song (no pun intended)

[ChickShhh]

Yeah
Saito Neko, forever and ever, amen.