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ShinjiPG · 2008.07.25, 02:10 AM

I like both versions very much, if I take DV's Souretsu as an interely different song

Lena-chan · 2008.07.25, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by ShinjiPG

I like both versions very much, if I take DV's Souretsu as an interely different song

I think it too!
it's like yattsuke shigoto

OMG rep pawaa 4 O.o'

Silverrime · 2008.07.25, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Osiris12345

Am I the only one who agress with Maou here? KSK's "Souretsu" absolutely destroys the live performance.

Nope, I'm right there with you guys. I don't like the bunny ear performance very much.

I prefer the studio version of KZK songs over any live performance of them. For me, it's all in the details in regards to that album. Though, I do enjoy the EM versions quite a bit in their own right.

Maou · 2008.07.27, 09:42 AM

For the most part, I like the EM versions more. KSK sounds a little bland/boring compared to the energy of Tokyo Jihen. What they lose in subtlety, they gain in energy. The only time they really failed a KSK song was Poltergeist. They shouldn't have played that. On the other hand, Meisai, Kuki, and Odaijini from EM destroy the album versions.

ShinjiPG · 2008.07.27, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Maou

On the other hand, Meisai, Kuki, and Odaijini from EM destroy the album versions.

As songs on their own, you might be correct. But as a part of a bigger thing (aka KZK), the album versions are "perfect".

Osiris12345 · 2008.07.28, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Maou

On the other hand, Meisai, Kuki, and Odaijini from EM destroy the album versions.

Now this is where I completely disagree with you. In my opinion, there is not ONE version of a song from KSK that has been performed better live (or in ZCS's case, the original "Yattsuke Shigoto"). KSK just did it right the first time and I find that the EM versions tend to lose something that the original recording had. That's not to say that they are bad but I feel that they don't really improve upon any of them. I feel like Electric Mole improved upon just about every song performed except for the ones from KSK (the only one that I find on par would be "Doppelganger", the performance really gave me a new appreciation for it).

"Meisai" didn't have the orgasmic Saito Neko and Ukigumo violin/guitar duel at the end, "Kuki" did not feel as climactic as the album version did, and "Odaiji ni" I felt lost a lot of its bite with the screeching guitar out of the mix. It was turned into a normal ballad. Great performance, but I think the song was done better on the album.

Just my opinion, of course.

But one song that could possibly surpass all of the other versions was "Ringo no Uta". Ugh... why was it cut short??? I adore the version on EM. I would kill for a full version of it.

gekokujyo · 2008.07.28, 05:41 AM

I adored KSK but even so, I think the EM version of Stem -KILLS- the album version; srsly? The way they just shred into the guitars at the beginning? Awesome!

And the EM version of Odaijini! How can any studio recording top that level of raw emotion she puts in that last line she delivers?

I mean, the studio recordings are all perfect "on paper", but when you take into account the experience you get when you're listening to the stuff, I think the live versions hit me a bit harder.

Like Dynamite Out! Just about every song there was done superior to the studio version.

Now back to the topic - I seriously find it hard to fathom so much hate for VARIETY because I think it is actually a very, very competent pop album.

Regardless, my list for 'worst' mixtape would look something like this:

1. Nobara
2. Kimi wo aisu
3. Kuroi orufe (I think we can detect a pattern here)
4. Kougousei (weak song, bad recording)
5. Hai hai (this is the sort of song I can only appreciate as a Ringo 'novelty', having already known what fantastic stuff she is capable of)
6. B.B. Queen
7. Karada
8. SERIVCE (JCHI version - I almost always skip this on the DVD)

And that's about it, really.

NCORE · 2008.07.28, 06:22 AM

^Yeah, agree with Service JCHI.. I like hai hai and kougousei though..

Originally Posted by ShinjiPG

As songs on their own, you might be correct. But as a part of a bigger thing (aka KZK), the album versions are "perfect".

I'm with you on this

ShinjiPG · 2008.07.28, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by gekokujyo

1. Nobara
2. Kimi wo aisu
3. Kuroi orufe (I think we can detect a pattern here)
4. Kougousei (weak song, bad recording)
5. Hai hai (this is the sort of song I can only appreciate as a Ringo 'novelty', having already known what fantastic stuff she is capable of)
6. B.B. Queen
7. Karada
8. SERIVCE (JCHI version - I almost always skip this on the DVD)

I know it's hard to make a "Worst Ringo Songs Mixtape"... But seriously, Kougousei? I wouldn't even consider that to be a "Normal" song!
Anyway, the only ones I agree with are JCHI's Service and maybe B.B. Queen.
I kind of understand your problem with Nobara, but seriously, I love that song =P

2008.07.27, 09:42 AM	#74
Maou Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 3,226	For the most part, I like the EM versions more. KSK sounds a little bland/boring compared to the energy of Tokyo Jihen. What they lose in subtlety, they gain in energy. The only time they really failed a KSK song was Poltergeist. They shouldn't have played that. On the other hand, Meisai, Kuki, and Odaijini from EM destroy the album versions. __________________ I'd rather have a life of "oh wells" than a life of "what ifs"

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2008.07.25, 02:10 AM	#71
ShinjiPG Retired Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,491	I like both versions very much, if I take DV's Souretsu as an interely different song

2008.07.28, 05:41 AM	#77
gekokujyo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 683	I adored KSK but even so, I think the EM version of Stem -KILLS- the album version; srsly? The way they just shred into the guitars at the beginning? Awesome! And the EM version of Odaijini! How can any studio recording top that level of raw emotion she puts in that last line she delivers? I mean, the studio recordings are all perfect "on paper", but when you take into account the experience you get when you're listening to the stuff, I think the live versions hit me a bit harder. Like Dynamite Out! Just about every song there was done superior to the studio version. Now back to the topic - I seriously find it hard to fathom so much hate for VARIETY because I think it is actually a very, very competent pop album. Regardless, my list for 'worst' mixtape would look something like this: 1. Nobara 2. Kimi wo aisu 3. Kuroi orufe (I think we can detect a pattern here) 4. Kougousei (weak song, bad recording) 5. Hai hai (this is the sort of song I can only appreciate as a Ringo 'novelty', having already known what fantastic stuff she is capable of) 6. B.B. Queen 7. Karada 8. SERIVCE (JCHI version - I almost always skip this on the DVD) And that's about it, really.