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Old 2015.08.19, 11:21 AM   #1161
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That's a tough one. For me it comes down mostly to the vocals. In the Coke song they're processed almost beyond recognition, even live; meanwhile I've never really heard a live rendition of NIPPON that didn't sound like she was struggling with it.
I agree. I can't handle autotune well. I mean there probably are some songs with it that I might like (nothing comes to mind immediately though) but it really is something that shouldn't be utilized by a musician like Ringo, that is a pretty damn good one.
While NIPPON isn't exactly cream of the crop either, I find it more easily digestible.
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Old 2015.08.19, 12:54 PM   #1162
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I had intended to simply update my previous post with the latest results, but in going through it today I found a few issues that affect some of the initial impressions that everyone had. So I thought I would re-post the corrected version. I promise to confine future updates to *this* post and not re-post this giant thing again.
  • 31-Aug-2015 - updated with final results; added percentages; sorted results by ranking (descending)
  • Now listing the total number of responses for each answer, instead of percentages.
  • There were a couple of hidden options for some of the questions that didn't display on the graph at all, because they had 0 responses. Anything that did show on the graph, even as 0%, had at least 1 response.
  • I had interpreted the "age" question incorrectly. The ranges actually signify 10 years younger than I had first thought. This has been corrected.
  • Corrected translation of question #15, per tsukigimehime's comment.
  • There are exactly 1592 responses to every question, with only two exceptions:
    • #1 (Sex): 945 responses. Assuming that all questions were required, this question should have had 1592 responses. This is most likely an error in the computer program being used to generate the statistics.
    • #20 (What kind of goods did you buy this time?): 2442 responses. Assuming this question allowed the respondent to pick more than 1 answer, this makes sense. But I also very much doubt that she sold exactly 0 flags, given that there were loads of them in the crowd. So likely there's a programming issue here also.
1. 性別 [Sex]
(R1) 女 [Female] 923 = 58.0%
(R2) 男 [Male] 22 (should be 669) = 42.0%

[Total Responses] 945 (should be 1592)
2. 年齡(年齢) [Age]
(R1) 〜30 [21-30] 977 = 61.4%
(R2) 〜40 [31-40] 490 = 30.8%
(R3) 〜20 [11-20] 74 = 4.6%
(R4) 〜50 [41-50] 24 = 1.5%
(R5) 〜10 [0-10] 23 = 1.4%
(R6) 〜60 [51-60] 2 = 0.1%
(R7) 60〜 [60+] 0 = 0.0%
[Total Responses] 1592
3. 你來自哪裡?(どこから来ましたか?) [Where did you come from?]
(R1) 台灣(台湾) [Taiwan] 1486 = 93.3%
(R2) 香港 [Hong Kong] 62 = 3.9%
(R3) 中國(中国) [China] 24 = 1.5%
(R4=) 日本 [Japan] 10 = 0.6%
(R4=) 其他(その他) [Other] 10 = 0.6%
(R6) 韓國 [South Korea] 0 = 0.0%

[Total Responses] 1592
4. 今天有和誰一起來?(今日は誰と一緒に来ましたか?) [Who came with you today?]
(R1) 朋友(友達) [Friends] 782 = 49.1%
(R2) 一個人(一人) [By myself] 391 = 24.6%
(R3) 情侶或伴侶(恋人またはパートナー) [Significant other] 267 = 16.8%
(R4) 家人(家族) [Family] 139 = 8.7%
(R5) 其他(その他) [Other] 13 = 0.8%
[Total Responses] 1592
5. 你曾經在日本看過椎名林檎的演出嗎?(日本でも椎名林檎のライブを観たことがありますか?) [Have you seen Shiina Ringo live in Japan?]
(R1) 沒有(いいえ) [No] 1408 = 88.4%
(R2) 有(はい) [Yes] 184 = 11.6%
[Total Responses] 1592
6. 用一句話來形容今天的演唱會。(今日のライブの感想をひとこと) [Your impression of today's performance in a couple of words?]
(R1) 超讚(最高) [Awesome] 712 = 44.7%
(R2) 還想要再看(もっと観たい) [Want to see more] 705 = 44.3%
(R3) 震驚(驚き) [Surprising] 62 = 3.9%
(R4) 開心(楽しかった) [Fun] 56 = 3.5%
(R5) 其他(その他) [Other] 37 = 2.3%
(R6) 可惜(残念) [Disappointed] 20 = 1.3%
[Total Responses] 1592
7. 你覺得今天最棒的歌曲是?(今日のライブでいちばん良かった楽曲は?) [What was the best song at today's performance?]
(R1) M11 浴室 [Yokushitsu] 292 = 18.3%
(R2) M12 罪と罰 [Tsumi to Batsu] 218 = 13.7%
(R3) M1 茎(ステム)〜大名遊ビ編〜 [Kuki] 171 = 10.7%
(R4) M10 本能 [Honnou] 143 = 9.0%
(R5) EC2 長く短い祭 [Nagaku Mijikai Matsuri] 123 = 7.7%
(R6) M2 NIPPON [NIPPON] 104 = 6.5%
(R7) M6 神様、仏様(W/L Hand) [Kamisama, Hotokesama] 94 = 5.9%
(R8) M16 歌舞伎町の女王 [Kabukichou no Joou] 92 = 5.8%
(R9) M4 ありあまる富 [Ariamaru Tomi] 65 = 4.1%
(R10) EC1 丸の内サディスティック [Marunouchi Sadistic] 46 = 2.9%
(R11) M15 青春の瞬き [Seishun no Matataki] 43 = 2.7%
(R12) M9 女の子は誰でも [Onna no Ko wa Dare demo] 26 = 1.6%
(R13) EC3 旬 [Shun] 25 = 1.6%
(R14) M8 おいしい季節 [Oishii Kisetsu] 23 = 1.4%
(R15) M17 ちちんぷいぷい [Chichinpuipui] 20 = 1.3%
(R16) M13 迷彩 [Meisai] 19 = 1.2%
(R17) M7 葬列(インスト) [Souretsu (Instrumental)] 18 = 1.1%
(R18) M3 自由へ道連れ [Jiyuu e Michizure] 16 = 1.0%
(R19) M18 密偵物語 [Mittei Monogatari] 13 = 0.8%
(R20) M19 殺し屋危機一髪 [Koroshiya Kikiippatsu] 13 = 0.8%
(R21) M20 カリソメ乙女 [Karisome Otome] 12 = 0.8%
(R22) M5 走れゎナンバー [Hashire wa Number] 11 = 0.7%
(R23) M14 望遠鏡の外の景色 [Boukenkyou no Soto no Keshiki] 5 = 0.3%
[Total Responses] 1592
8. 你希望下次在台灣的演唱會時應該怎麼舉辦會更好?(こんど台湾でライブをやるとしたら、何を希望しますか。) [If another live performance were held in Taiwan, what would you wish for?]
(R1) 換到更大的場地(もっと大きい会場で) [Larger venue] 843 = 53.0%
(R2) 增加演唱會場次(公演数をもっと多く) [More performances] 384 = 24.1%
(R3) 其他(その他) [Other] 189 = 11.9%
(R4) 換到較小的場地(もっと小さい会場で) [Smaller venue] 113 = 7.1%
(R5) 在台灣其他城市舉辦(台湾の中で数か所) [Several different locations in Taiwan] 63 = 4.0%
[Total Responses] 1592
9. 你會建議椎名林檎在台灣吃什麼呢?(台湾で、椎名林檎には何を食べてほしいですか。) [What would you want Shiina Ringo to eat in Taiwan?]
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10. 你成為椎名林檎的愛好家(意指歌迷)有多久了?(椎名林檎の愛好家になってどのぐらいですか。) [How long have you been a fan of Shiina Ringo?]
(R1) 10年以上 [Over 10 years] 681 = 42.8%
(R2) 5年~10年 [5-10 years] 503 = 31.6%
(R3) 2年~5年 [2-5 years] 269 = 16.9%
(R4) 因為這場演唱會(このライブがきっかけ) [Since this live performance] 85 = 5.3%
(R5) 未滿1年(1年未満) [Less than 1 year] 54 = 3.4%

[Total Responses] 1592
11. 你是如何認識椎名林檎的呢?(椎名林檎を知ったきっかけは何ですか?) [How did you find out about Shiina Ringo?]
(R1) 其他(その他) [Other] 598 = 37.6%
(R2) 電視(テレビ) [TV] 425 = 26.7%
(R3) 音樂情報網站(音楽ニュースサイト) [Music news site] 292 = 18.3%
(R4) 影片分享網站(映像配信サイト) [Streaming video site] 241 = 15.1%
(R5) 雜誌(雑誌) [Magazine] 36 = 2.3%
[Total Responses] 1592
12. 請寫出兩首你最喜愛的椎名林檎的歌。(最も好きな椎名林檎の楽曲を二つまで挙げてください。) [Please tell us your favorite Shiina Ringo songs (up to two).]
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13. 請寫出你最喜愛的椎名林檎的原創專輯。(最も好きな椎名林檎のオリジナルアルバムを選択してください。) [Choose your favorite Shiina Ringo original album.]
(R1) 加爾基 精液 栗子花(加爾基 精液 栗ノ花) [Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana] 658 = 41.3%
(R2) 勝訴的新宿舞孃(勝訴ストリップ) [Shouso Strip] 367 = 23.1%
(R3) 無限償還(無罪モラトリアム) [Muzai Moratorium] 298 = 18.7%
(R4) 日出處(日出処) [Hi Izuru Tokoro] 159 = 10.0%
(R5) 三文八卦(三文ゴシップ) [Sanmon Gossip] 110 = 6.9%
[Total Responses] 1592
14. 為了提高椎名林檎在台灣的人氣,你覺得最好的方法是?(台湾で椎名林檎の人気がもっと高まるにはどうすれば良いと思いますか。) [What do you think would be the best way to increase Shiina Ringo's popularity in Taiwan?]
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15. 你有購買台灣限定專輯「垂涎三尺」嗎?(台湾限定作品「垂涎三尺」は買いましたか。) [Did you buy the Taiwan-only limited release album "Chui Xian San Chi"?]
(R1) 沒有(いいえ) [No] 1103 = 69.3%
(R2) 有(はい) [Yes] 489 = 30.7%

[Total Responses] 1592
16. 請用兩個中文字來形容椎名林檎。(椎名林檎の存在を、あなたが思う漢字2文字で表してください。) [What two words best describe Shiina Ringo?]
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17. 你有追蹤椎名林檎的日本官方臉書嗎?(椎名林檎のオフィシャルFacebookペーをフォローしていますか?) [Do you follow the official Shiina Ringo Facebook page?]
(R1) 已經追蹤(フォローしている) [Following] 1193 = 74.9%
(R2) 尚未追蹤(フォローしていない) [Not following] 399 = 25.1%
[Total Responses] 1592
18. 你有追蹤椎名林檎的日本官方推特(SR猫柳本線)嗎?(椎名林檎のオフィシャルツイッターアカウント(SR猫柳本線)をフォローしていますか?) [Do you follow Shiina Ringo's official Twitter account "SR Nekoyanagi Main Line"?]
(R1) 尚未追蹤(フォローしていない) [Not following] 1008 = 63.3%
(R2) 已經追蹤(フォローしている) [Following] 584 = 36.7%

[Total Responses] 1592
19. 你有追蹤這次台灣演唱會的官方臉書(椎名林檎Live in Taiwan)嗎?(台湾公演のFaebookページ(椎名林檎Live in Taiwan)をフォローしていますか?) [Do you follow the Taiwan performance Facebook Page "Shiina Ringo Live in Taiwan"?]
(R1) 已經追蹤(フォローしている) [Following] 1474 = 92.6%
(R2) 尚未追蹤(フォローしていない) [Not following] 118 = 7.4%
[Total Responses] 1592
20. 您這次購買了哪些周邊商品?(今回はどんな物販を購入されましたか?) [What kind of goods did you buy this time?]
(R1) 其他(その他) [Other] 958 = 39.2%
(R2) 毛巾(タオル) [Hand towel] 398 = 16.3%
(R3) 紙膠帶(マスキングテープ) [Masking tape] 272 = 11.1%
(R4) 別針(バッチ) [Badge] 248 = 10.2%
(R5) 海報(ポスター) [Poster] 234 = 9.6%
(R6) T恤(Tシャツ) [T-shirt] 233 = 9.5%
(R7) 口罩(マスク) [Mask] 99 = 4.1%
(R8) 小手旗(手旗) [Flag] 0 (this number is suspect) = 0%
[Total Responses] 2442
21. 您透過什麼管道取得椎名林檎演唱會資訊?(今回の公演はどこから知りましたか?) [Where did you hear about this performance?]
(R1) Facebook [Facebook] 1051 = 66.0%
(R2) 親友告知(知人から) [From a friend] 291 = 18.3%
(R3) 電視廣播網路(WEB ) [TV broadcast network] 109 = 6.8%
(R4) 其他(その他) [Other] 89 = 5.6%
(R5) 報章雜誌(新聞・雑誌) [Newspapers/Magazines] 29 = 1.8%
(R6) 廣告文宣(コマーシャル) [Advertising] 23 = 1.4%
[Total Responses] 1592
22. 請問您的職業?(職業を教えてください) [Please tell us your occupation.]
(R1) 上班族(サラリーマン) [Office worker] 966 = 60.7%
(R2) 學生(学生) [Student] 318 = 20.0%
(R3) 其他(その他) [Other] 244 = 15.3%
(R4) 公務員 [Government worker] 48 = 3.0%
(R5) 家庭主婦(専業主婦) [Homemaker] 16 = 1.0%

[Total Responses] 1592
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Old 2015.08.19, 06:58 PM   #1163
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Thanks for keeping this updated!

I love the after-concert questionnaires (I don't know how long they've been a fixture, but they were done after expo14 as well... RecoHatsu (I think I've seen ppl here refer to this one by "omoitsuki") also had a paper survey.) I don't seem to recall there even being an option for the flag... Also No.15 is about the Taiwan-only album collection she put out... Maybe it'd have more purchases if she sold it as concert goods
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Old 2015.08.19, 07:15 PM   #1164
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Thank you for the correction. That one had me stumped!

Maybe the flags are in the "other" category for some reason. If ~900/1500 respondents bought them, that seems more reasonable.
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It was in the Chinese characters that she used as the concert title, so it definitely wouldn't come up in any dictionaries. Glad to have been of help. The "other" category was a write-in question (so it would likely include stickers, flags, scarves, "nothing," etc.)... I admittedly forgot to write in "flag," but as the flags sold out, hopefully someone just estimates based on receipts and the amount of stock they had :s
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Old 2015.08.20, 10:58 AM   #1166
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Boy do those album results sound accurate. And here EMF always makes me feel like I'm the one that doesn't get it.
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^ It is kind of funny how the album ranking so thoroughly represents what the international Ringo fan community about 5-10 years ago would have picked, had we also heard Hi Izuru Tokoro then.

I find the battle between Hi Izuru Tokoro and Sanmon Gossip pretty interesting, too - though I prefer more specific songs on HIT than SG, I think SG was a stronger, more cohesive album. It makes me all very curious what her next album might be like.

And thanks for the abundant info, zeroryouko! Even though the stats about sex are really low, I wouldn't be surprised if attendance was mostly women.
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I'm happily shocked at some of those results. Well, except the part about Facebook's global dominance.
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For me it comes down mostly to the vocals. In the Coke song they're processed almost beyond recognition, even live; meanwhile I've never really heard a live rendition of NIPPON that didn't sound like she was struggling with it.

Again, she's not even singing the Coke song live as become evident of her fall. XD

During the first songs (Kuki, NIPPON, etc), I wasn't sure if she was struggling because she hasn't warmed her voice enough or she's just doing a weird asian vibrato. Gone by less than a handful of songs. Actually, it was great to witness because if it was the first, I felt the reality that I was really watching her live. )
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I thought maybe Sanmon Gossip never got a Taiwanese release (as a way if explaining the lack of popularity...) but it seems that that's not the case... It makes me interested to see what the general public in Japan (not just Ringo fanclub members) would choose as their favorite albums... I think lack of promotion could be a big source, though--I'm sure other people here agree, but seeing her perform a song live is always what makes me rethink my opinions on her music
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