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2009.05.12, 06:00 PM | #711 | |
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Actually, all their DVDs available are region 0 And only one Shiina Ringo DVD is not, so we're lucky that way, to be able to buy and watch their DVDs without the need for region-free players or gimmicks. If you have doubts or want to confirm the region on any DVD, just ask in the products threads. We have information that's waaay more reliable than what the resellers tell you. |
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2009.05.12, 06:37 PM | #712 | |
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We'll try not to make you feel younger than us when we reflect on our years of being acquainted with Shiina Ringo's history inside and outside of Tokyo Jihen.
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2009.05.12, 08:10 PM | #713 | |
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And you are a month older than my little brother, who is almost five years younger than me. |
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2009.05.12, 10:57 PM | #714 |
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welcome to EMF ron
hey fluffie, your best friend just came!
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2009.05.13, 02:10 AM | #715 |
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2009.05.13, 10:38 AM | #716 |
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Thanks for all your warm welcomes! Seems like this is going to be a fun place.
So yeah... I'm getting the impression that Variety is not much-loved among the fanbase, is that correct? That's okay, if I was a trend-follower I wouldn't be listening to TJ in the first place! Honestly my favorite varies as my mood shifts. If I'm in the mood for something jazzier, definitely Adult. Something more rough-edged, Education. Those three albums are so distinct, it's easy to pick the one I'm in the mood for at any moment. I haven't heard enough Shiina solo stuff to judge it as a whole, but I get the impression from what I've heard that it tends to be more... what's the word I'm looking for... mainstream? Accessible? I'm not sure either of those are right. For the most part, my tastes run more towards progressive rock and what you might call "out there" music... Zappa is a big favorite, as are Yes, King Crimson, etc. So I get the sense that TJ leans closer to those directions than her solo work does. (They sound like a Japanese Mr. Bungle at times.) Someone will correct me if I'm wrong, I'm sure. Thanks for all the advice on the videos... complicated stuff, I guess. And thank you, Inaudible-Whisper, for giving my podcast a listen! I'm glad you found it enjoyable. So I guess I have to ask... where should a person of my tastes start in regards to Shiina's solo work? Ron Moses |
2009.05.13, 10:59 AM | #717 | |
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Well, that's my opinion... but I don't really know any of the bands you mentioned, and the ones you played at your podcast don't give me a precise direction lol. PS - Currently listening to the Sakanaction portion of your podcast. Really good! Never heard of them |
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2009.05.13, 11:51 AM | #718 |
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Yes, definitely Karuki Zaamen Kuri no Hana if you like stuff that's "out there". It's probably the most "out there" record that could still be called pop music
Tokyo Jihen are much more straightforward than her solo work tends to be, there's a band sound to it whereas she experimented more with her solo stuff, so there's a good chance you'll like that better. |
2009.05.14, 04:51 AM | #719 | |
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But as I'm listening to samples from Karuki Zaamen Kuri no Hana, it seems like the solo work is more sonically adventurous, whereas the TJ stuff is more musically adventurous. The KZK material I'm listening to is amazingly dense with all sorts of wonderful sounds, but beneath it all is a tendency toward very simple melodies. Of course, simple melodies -- almost childlike at times -- are a big part of both Shiina's and TJ's appeal, but to my ears, the solo work raises the stakes by enveloping those melodies in these incredible soundscapes, whereas TJ raises the stakes by tweaking out the melodies a few extra degrees, and keeping the presentation relatively straightforward. For example, I'm listening to Yattsuke Shigoto. Great tune! There's really not much to the composition itself, but all these cartoony flourishes throughout the track elevate it well above a simple pop song. I can't imagine it working acoustically, but in its recorded form it's a wonderful listen. Compare this to a track like Keshou Naoshi. Sonically, it's far simpler than Yattsuke Shigoto. But musically, the melody and chord progression are considerably more intricate. This is where I hear the difference between the solo work and the TJ stuff. Neither is inherently superior to the other, but they're different approaches, and which you prefer depends on where you're coming from as a listener. Of course these are isolated examples, and as I said, only a first impression of what I'm hearing. I like it, though, a lot. I'll be purchasing this later today. Thanks for the advice everyone! Ron Moses |
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I never thought of it that way, so I can't say whether I agree or not, but you DO have a point! Good post.
By the way, why don't you listen to the original version of Yattsuke Shigoto? You could then confirm or deny for yourself how it translates in a more conventional arrangement.
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