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Old 2008.11.08, 12:55 PM   #1
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I'm bored and I seem to enjoy making threads like this. To put it simply: Take all of her albums and say which version you think is the best version of each song.

I'll start.

Muzai Moratorium

1. Tadashii Machi
- Electric Mole
2. Kabukichou no Joou - Ringohan
3. Marunouchi Sadistic - Dynamite Out (With EM at a VERY close second)
4. Koufukuron (Etsuraku hen) - Electric Mole
5. Akane Sasu Kiro Terasaredo - album
6. Sid to Hakuchumuu - MAYONAKA WA JUNKETSU SINGLE (So much so that it's hard for me to even listen to the original track)
7. Tsumiki Asobi - Zazen Ecstacy
8. Koko De Kiss Shite - DYNAMITE OUT (I used to hate this song but DO converted me)
9. Onaji Yoru - Gekokujyo Ecstasy
10. Keikoku - Electric Mole
11. Morphine - album (As far as I know, she hasn't done this one live)

Shouso Strip
1. Kyogenshou - album
2. Yokushitsu - HF version fused with Le Salle de Bain
3. Benkai Debussy - Gekokujyo Ecstasy
4. Gibs - album
5. Yami ni Furu Ame - album
6. Identity - album
7. Tsumi to Batsu - ALBUM ALBUM ALBUM ALBUM ALBUM (Yeah, you get the point...)
8. Stoicism - album
9. Tsuki ni Makeinu - Dynamite Out
10. Sakana - Zazen Ecstacy
11. Byoushou Public - Gekokujyo Ecstasy
12. Honnou - ALBUM (Oh, come on! This is just a classic! It's almost impossible to duplicate live!)
13. Izonshou - album

KSK
1. Shuukyou - album (By default since she's never performed it live)
2. Doppelganger - Electric Mole (Album version fits MUCH better in the context of the album but I find myself getting into the arrangement more from EM)
3. Meisai - album
4. Odaiji ni - album (Though EM is VERY close)
5. Yattsuke Shigoto - album (*dodges hisses and tomatoes from ZCS fans*)
6. Kuki - album (Unless Yahiko's mix of both versions of Stem count, then that one! That completely gave me a new appreciation for the song!)
7. Torikoshi Kurou - album (BX's version is very cool though)
8. Okonomi de - Electric Mole (See Doppelganger)
9. Ishiki - album (What can I say? I love the flute and digeredoo!)
10. Poltergeist - ALBUM (EM doesn't even compare and don't even try to argue HF)
11. Souretsu - ALBUM (TJ performance doesn't have half the impact that the original recording does)

Kyoiku
1. Ringo no Uta - DYNAMITE OUT
2. Jusui Negai - DYNAMITE OUT
3. Gunjyou Hyori - DYNAMITE OUT (Noticing a pattern here?)
4. Sounan - album (*GASP*)
5. Crawl - DYNAMITE OUT DYNAMITE OUT DYNAMITE OUT DYNAMITE OUT (Oh, dear god, this is painful to listen to on the album. But DO made this song so badass I almost pissed myself.)
6. Genjitsu Ote - Dynamite.... album? (This one is just HZM playing on the piano, hard to really say what the best "version" is)
7. Genjitsu wo Warau - Dynamite Out (But not by that wide of a margin)
8. Service - DYNAMITE OUT DYNAMITE OUT DYNA-- (Yeah, I'll shut up)
9. Ekimae - DYNAMITE OUT x 1000 (Another song that makes you go "Eh?" when you listen to it on the album and then when you see it live you're like "Holy shit! This song is fuckin' awesome!")
10. Omatsuri Sawagi - tie (Yes, that's right. I couldn't pick one. They're both THAT good.)
11. Bokoku Jyoshou - Dynamite Out (Though I do really like the album version. And no, I won't let you strangle me, Maou.....)
12. Yume no Ato - Dynamite Out (It was just a nice way to end the concert. Though the album version is great too. It's hard to pick but I gave DO the edge because it was a nice ending to a fantastic concert. And I didn't even consider Ringohan and HF, btw.)

Adult
1. Himitsu - album (DO's version is great but I like the jazzier feel better than the rock one.)
2. Kenka Joutou - album
3. Keshou Naoshi - album (But I did like the version on the Ringohan DVD.)
4. Superstar - DYNAMITE OUT (Album version puts me to sleep.)
5. Shuraba - Shuraba single version (Don't like album version very much)
6. Yukiguni - album (And the segue into Kabuki on the album is just too perfect to factor out!)
7. Kabuki - Domestic Virgin Line (There's something about this version that has so much energy. I can't really describe it. It really helps that the crowd is into it.)
8. Blackout - album
9. Tasogari Naki - album
10. Toumei Ningen - DYNAMITE OUT x 1,000,000,000 (Do I really need to explain myself here?)
11. Tegami - album

I'm too lazy to do Variety right now but most of those tracks sounded better on the album rather than S&T with the exception of Boutomin and Kronekodow.

Maybe I'll do singles later.
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Old 2008.11.08, 01:21 PM   #2
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Muzai Moratorium
01. Tadashii machi - Electric Mole
02. Kabukichou no joou - Jisakujiensei Jitsuenkai
03. Marunouchi sadistic - Dynamite Out
04. Koufukuron (etsuraku hen) - Electric Mole
05. Akane sasu kiro terasaredo... - Album
06. Sid to hakuchuumu - Gekokujyo Xstacy
07. Tsumiki asobi - Zazen Xstacy
08. Koko de kiss shite. - Baishou Ecstasy (Bonus Demo)
09. Onaji yoru - Zecchoushuu
10. Keikoku - Gekkou Quantize
11. Morphine - Jisakujiensei Jitsuenkai

Shouso Strip
01. Kyougenshou - Album
02. Yokushitsu - Zazen Xstasy
03. Benkai Debussy - Zazen Xstasy
04. Gibs - Electric Mole
05. Yami ni furu ame - Demo Tapes
06. Identity - Zazen Xstasy
07. Tsumi to batsu - Electric Mole
08. Stoicism - Zazen Xstasy
09. Tsuki ni makeinu - Demo Tapes
10. Sakana - Zazen Xstasy
11. Byoushou public - Zazen Xstasy
12. Honnou - Gekokujyo Xstasy
13. Izonshou - Gekokujyo Xstasy

KSK

01. Shuukyou - Album
02. Doppelgänger - Electric Mole
03. Meisai - Album
04. Odaiji ni - Electric Mole
05. Yattsuke shigoto - 6 Volt Electrique Join 21st Century
06. Kuki - Electric Mole
07. Torikoshi kurou - Baisho Ecstacy
08. Okonomi de - Electric Mole
09. Ishiki - Electric Mole
10. Poltergeist - Electric Mole
11. Souretsu - Domestic Virgin Line

Kyouiku
01. Ringo no Uta - Dynamite Out
02. Gunjou Biyori - Dynamite Out
03. Jusui Negai - Dynamite Out
04. Sounan - Dynamite Out
05. Crawl - Dynamite Out
06. Genjitsu ni Oite - Dynamite Out
07. Genjitsu o Warau - Just Can't Help It
08. Service - Domestic Virgin Line
09. Ekimae - Dynamite Out
10. Omatsuri Sawagi - Dynamite Out
11. Bokoku Jousho - Dynamite Out
12. Yume no Ato - Dynamite Out

Adult
01. Himitsu - Dynamite Tour
02. Kenka Joutou - Album
03. Kenshou Naoshi - Album
04. Superstar - Dynamite Out
05. Shuraba - Single Version
06. Yukiguni - Album
07. Kabuki - Domestic Virgin Line
08. Blackout - Just Can't Help It
09. Tasogare Naki - Album
10. Toumei Ningen - Dynamite Out
11. Tegami - Just Can't Help It

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Old 2008.11.08, 01:40 PM   #3
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Muzai Moratorium

Tadashii Machi - Electric Mole
Kabukichou no Joou - Ringohan
Marunouchi Sadistic - Electric Mole
Koufukuron (Etsuraku Hen) - FUJI ROCK FESTIVAL 2004
Akane Sasu Kiro Terasaredo... - Album
Sid to Hakuchuumu - Mayonaka wa Junketsu
Tsumiki Asobi - Zazen Ecstasy
Kokode Kiss Shite - Album
Onaji Yoru - Album
Keikoku - Electric Mole
Morphine - Album


Shouso Strip

Kyogenshou - ALBUM
Yokushitsu - ALBUM!!
Benkai Debussy - Zazen Ecstasy
Gips - Electric Mole
Yami ni Furu Ame - Album
Identity - ALBUM
Tsumi to Batsu - ALBUM!!!!
Stoicism - Zazen Ecstasy
Tsuki ni Makeinu - Album
Sakana - Album
Byoushou Public - Zazen Ecstasy
Honnou - Album
Izonshou - Album


Karuri Zamen Kuri no Hana

Shuukyou - Album, obviously
Doppelganger - Album (but this was extremely difficult to choose X_X)
Meisai - Album
Odaiji ni - Album
Yattsuke Shigoto - Album
Kuki - Album
Torikoshi Kurou - Album
Okonomi de - Album
Ishiki - Album
Poltergeist - Album
Shuukyou - Album
Ichijiku no Hana - Album

(Definitely, this is the best album ever Lol)


Kyoiku

Ringo no Uta - Single ver.
Gunjou Biyori - Album
Jusui Negai - Album
Sounan - Album
Crawl - Dynamite out
Genjitsu ni Oite - Just can't help it.
Genjitsu wo Warau - Album
Service - Dynamite out
Ekimae - Album
Omatsuri Sawagi - MEET THE WORLD BEAT 2004
Bokoku Jousho - Album
Yume no Ato - Album (Kyoiku)


Adult

Himitsu - Dynamite! tour ver.
Kenka Joutou - Just can't help it.
Keshou Naoshi - Album
Superstar - Dynamite out
Shuraba adult ver. - Shuraba single ver.
Yukiguni - Album
Kabuki - Just can't help it
Blackout - Album
Tasogare Naki - FOR MOTHER ver.
Toumei Ningen - Dynamite out
Tegami - Album
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Muzai Moratorium
01. Tadashii Machi - Album (the POLYSICS-like noises are a nice touch, and Electric Mole is a messy mix)
02. Kabukichou no Joou - Shinjuku Nite (I want to hear the whole thing in acoustic guitar, damn it!)
03. Marunouchi Sadistic - Dynamite Out
04. Koufukuron (Etsuraku hen) - Electric Mole
05. Akane Sasu Kiro Terasaredo - Album
06. Sid to Hakuchumuu - Mayonaka wa Junketsu B-Side (with Ringohan as an underrated close second)
07. Tsumiki Asobi - Zazen Ecstacy
08. Koko De Kiss Shite - Baishou Ecstasy bonus feature (keyboard/vocals solo)
09. Onaji Yoru - Undecided (for now)
10. Keikoku - Album (HZM did an awesome job in Electric Mole, but I think the hammond organ is more fitting than the grand piano)
11. Morphine - Album

Shouso Strip
01. Kyogenshou - Album
02. Yokushitsu - HF Instrumental
03. Benkai Debussy - Undecided (for now)
04. Gibs - Electric Mole (I can't stand the single/album versions, mainly because the mix is so dry)
05. Yami ni Furu Ame - Album (maybe Gekokujyo Xstasy if it were longer)
06. Identity - Undecided (for now)
07. Tsumi to Batsu - Album (with Electric Mole as a close second, because for what it loses in guitar work, it gains in the group effort instrumentals)
08. Stoicism - Album
09. Tsuki ni Makeinu - Undecided (for now)
10. Sakana - Album (Zazen Ecstasy version is overrated)
11. Byoushou Public - Undecided (for now)
12. Honnou - Just Can't Help It (the single/album version is too dry, and Shiina Ringo was spewing out delicious venom in JCHI)
13. Izonshou - Gekokujyo Xstasy

KSK
01. Shuukyou - Album
02. Doppelganger - Undecided (for now)
03. Meisai - HF (it's a cleaner recording, and minus some country twang)
04. Odaiji ni - Undecided (for now)
05. Yattsuke Shigoto - Undecided (for now)
06. Kuki - Casshern/LP version, with Electric Mole as a very close second.
07. Torikoshi Kurou - Undecided (for now)
08. Okonomi de - Album (there are several good versions of this, but nothing can duplicate the original mix)
09. Ishiki - Stem B-Side (it's mostly the same mix, but I like B-Side ending better)
10. Poltergeist - Undecided (for now)
11. Souretsu - Album (this version is unbeatable, just like the album version of Shuukyou)

Kyoiku
01. Ringo no Uta - Undecided (for now)
02. Jusui Negai - Dynamite Out (it's so much fury you can almost hear the mad eyes)
03. Gunjyou Biyori - Undecided (for now)
04. Sounan - Dynamite Out (I love the extended instrumental outros of Phase 1, and this is no exception)
05. Crawl - Dynamite Out (I have to agree with Osiris, that this performance is maximum badass)
06. Genjitsu Ote - Dynamite Out
07. Genjitsu wo Warau - Dynamite Out
08. Service - Dynamite Out (megaphones sound so much cooler in concert than in studio)
09. Ekimae - Dynamite Out
10. Omatsuri Sawagi - Undecided (for now)
11. Bokoku Jyoshou - Dynamite Out
12. Yume no Ato - Dynamite Out (and if the Kyoiku mix wasn't so awful, it would barely beat Dynamite Out, because I don't entirely care for the extra-pronounced going-out-with-a-bang on this particular song)

Adult
01. Himitsu - Album (and the Domestic Virgin Line performance is underrated)
02. Kenka Joutou - Album
03. Keshou Naoshi - Album
04. Superstar - Dynamite Out
05. Shuraba - Single
06. Yukiguni - Album
07. Kabuki - Domestic Virgin Line (in concert the megaphone is audibly and visually teh sex, plus all the other band members were at the top of their game)
08. Blackout - Just Can't Help It
09. Tasogari Naki - For Mother
10. Toumei Ningen - Dynamite Out
11. Tegami - Izawa vocals/piano solo version, with Domestic Virgin Line as a close second
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I didn't read through each of these, but I did notice you all preferred the Shuraba single. There is a lot of restless anxiety here about her direction, whathehellisshethinking fuuuuuuck!!!, etc. Which I, thankfully, am largely immune to. My big panic attack along the lines of what many here seem to experience quite regularly was this single. I still don't like it, hated/hate Get it Up For Love, and didn't like Rakujitsu immediately. I was pretty bummed.
I think most of the performances of the Adult stuff from JCHI are much stronger than the album versions, and this includes Shuraba. I only came to love the song after I saw this performance.

I think I prefer Akane-sasu and Sakana from Zazen, as well.
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Muzai Moratorium
1. Tadashii Machi
- Album
2. Kabukichou no Joou - Zazen Xstasy
3. Marunouchi Sadistic - Dynamite Out!
4. Koufukuron (Etsuraku hen) - Single (ok, as for etsuraku hen... Sweet Love Shower 99 > Manabiya Xtasy > Gekokujyou Extasy)
5. Akane Sasu Kiro Terasaredo - Zazen Xstasy
6. Sid to Hakuchumuu - Ringohan vs Zazen Xstasy
7. Tsumiki Asobi - Zazen Xstasy
8. Koko De Kiss Shite - Dynamite Out!
9. Onaji Yoru - ZCS
10. Keikoku - Electric Mole
11. Morphine - Album

Shouso Strip
1. Kyogenshou - DOMESTIC! Virgin LINE (I love the original, of course)
2. Yokushitsu - Zazen Xstasy
3. Benkai Debussy - Zazen Xtasy
4. Gibs - Electric Mole
5. Yami ni Furu Ame - Album
6. Identity - Zazen Xstasy
7. Tsumi to Batsu - Electric Mole (also the 6VOLT ELECTRIQue JOIN 21st CENTURY performance. If only there was a better audio version...)
8. Stoicism -Album
9. Tsuki ni Makeinu - Album
10. Sakana - Zazen Xstasy
11. Byoushou Public - Zazen Xstasy
12. Honnou - Album
13. Izonshou - Album

KSK
1. Shuukyou - Album
2. Doppelganger - Electric Mole
3. Meisai - Electric Mole
4. Odaiji ni - Electric Mole
5. Yattsuke Shigoto - ZCS
6. Kuki - Electric Mole
7. Torikoshi Kurou - Electric Mole
8. Okonomi de - Album
9. Ishiki - Electric Mole
10. Poltergeist - Heisei Fuuzoku
11. Souretsu - Album

Kyoiku
1. Ringo no Uta - Single version and Dynamite Out!
2. Jusui Negai - Dynamite Out!
3. Gunjyou Hyori - Dynamite Out!
4. Sounan - Dynamite Out!
5. Crawl - Dynamite Out!
6. Genjitsu ni Oite - Dynamite Out!
7. Genjitsu wo Warau - Dynamite Out!
8. Service - Dynamite Out!
9. Ekimae - Dynamite Out!
10. Omatsuri Sawagi - Dynamite Out!
11. Bokoku Jyoshou - Dynamite Out!
12. Yume no Ato - Heisei Fuuzoku (C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!)

Adult
1. Himitsu - Dynamite Out!
2. Kenka Joutou - Just Can't Help It
3. Keshou Naoshi - DOMESTIC! Virgin LINE
4. Superstar - Dynamite Out!
5. Shuraba - Single
6. Yukiguni - Just Can't Help It
7. Kabuki - Just Can't Help It
8. Blackout - Album
9. Tasogari Naki -Album
10. Toumei Ningen - Dynamite Out!
11. Tegami - Just Can't Help It

For later:

Variety
1. Ramp -
2. Mirror Ball-
3. Kingyo no Hako-
4. Shiseikatsu-
5. OSCA-
6. Kronekodow-
7. Fukushuu-
8. Boutomin-
9. SS/AW-
10. Tsukigime-hime-
11. Sake to Geko-
12. Killer Tune-
13. Metro-

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MUZAI MORATORIUM

tadashii machi: sugoroku xstasy
kabukichou no joou: zazen xstasy
marunouchi sadistic: domestic!
koufukuron: sugoroku xstasy
akanesasu kiro terasaredo...: zazen xstasy
sid to hakuchuumu: jisakujienseienkai
tsumiki asobi: zazen xstasy
koko de kiss shite.: dynamite!
onaji yoru: muzai moratorium
keikoku: rsr 1999
morphine: jisakujienseienkai

SHOUSO STRIP

kyogenshou: domestic! virgin line
yokushitsu: zazen xstasy
benkai debussy: zazen xstasy
gips: sugoroku xstasy
yami ni furu ame: gekokujou xstasy
identity: shouso strip
tsumi to batsu: sugoroku xstasy
stoicism: zazen xstasy
tsuki ni makeinu: shouso strip
sakana: zazen xstasy
byoshou public: zazen xstasy
honnou: shouso strip
izonshou: sugoroku exstasy

KALK SAMEN KURINOHANA

shuukyou: kalk samen kurinohana
doppelganger: sugoroku xstasy
meisai: sugoroku xstasy
odaiji ni: sugoroku xstasy
yattsuke shigoto: gekokujou xstasy
stem: sugoroku xstasy
torikoshi kurou: kalk samen kurinohana
okonomi de: sugoroku xstasy
ishiki: sugoroku xstasy
poltergëist: sugoroku xstasy
souretsu: domestic! virgin line
ichijiku no hana: kalk samen kurinohana

KYOUIKU

ringo no uta: sugoroku xstasy
gunjou biyori: dynamite!
jusui negai: adults only
sounan: dynamite!
crawl: dynamite!
genjitsu ni oite: domestic!
genjitsu wo warau: domestic!
service: domestic! virgin line
ekimae: education
omatsuri sawagi: domestic!
bokoku joucho: education
yume no ato: top runner

ADULT

himitsu: dynamite!
kenka jotou: domestic!
keshou naoshi: domestic! virgin line
superstar: dynamite!
shuraba: adult
yukiguni: domestic!
kabuki: domestic! virgin line
blackout: adult
tasogare naki: adult video
toumei ningen: domestic!
tegami: adult

VARIETY

ramp: variety
mirror ball: domestic!
kingyo no hako: variety
shiseikatsu: variety
OSCA: variety
kronekodow: variety
fukushuu: variety
boutomin: variety
SSAW: variety
tsukigimehime: variety
killer tune: variety
metro: variety


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Muzai Moratorium
1. Tadashii Machi - Album
2. Kabukichou no Joou - Ringohan
3. Marunouchi Sadistic - Dynamite Out
4. Koufukuron (Etsuraku hen) - Electric Mole
5. Akane Sasu Kiro Terasaredo - album
6. Sid to Hakuchumuu - Mayonaka single version
7. Tsumiki Asobi - Zazen Ecstacy
8. Koko De Kiss Shite - Dynamite Out
9. Onaji Yoru - Gekokujyo Ecstasy
10. Keikoku - Album (I love the little gasp she does at the end)
11. Morphine - Album

Shouso Strip
1. Kyogenshou - album
2. Yokushitsu - HF
3. Benkai Debussy - album
4. Gibs - album
5. Yami ni Furu Ame - album
6. Identity - album (I thought this would translate very well live, but somehow her live versions of this song always seems to fall short)
7. Tsumi to Batsu - EM
8. Stoicism - album
9. Tsuki ni Makeinu - Dynamite Out
10. Sakana - Zazen Ecstacy
11. Byoushou Public - Gekokujyo Ecstasy (wow I love the guitar duelling in this performance)
12. Honnou - album; best enjoyed with the PV
13. Izonshou - album

KSK
1. Shuukyou - album
2. Doppelganger - album (though must confess - not the biggest fan of this song)
3. Meisai - album
4. Odaiji ni - EM
5. Yattsuke Shigoto - ZCS
6. Kuki - EM
7. Torikoshi Kurou - album
8. Okonomi de - album
9. Ishiki - album
10. Poltergeist - HF; I really liked the cheap little vocal thing they did with the diff verses.
11. Souretsu - ALBUM, hah.

Kyoiku
1. Ringo no Uta - Dynamite out
2. Nyuusui negai - album (the little twang at the intro - they can never seem to get it exactly like they do on the studio version, and I Really like that twang)
3. Gunjou biyori - Dynamite out
4. Sounan - album (though I have a soft spot for the acoustic pseudo-bossa version that exists as a bootleg from the Ringohan performances)
5. Crawl - Dynamite out
6. Genjitsu Ote - Album, I think?
7. Genjitsu wo Warau - Album
8. Service - Album.
9. Ekimae - Dynamite out 'fo'sho.
10. Omatsuri Sawagi - Album
11. Bokoku joucho - Album
12. Yume no Ato - I couldn't decide between the album and the DO version. At the moment I'm leaning more towards the DO version.

Adult
1. Himitsu - DO
2. Kenka Joutou - JCHI version
3. Keshou Naoshi - album
4. Superstar - DO
5. Shuraba -album
6. Yukiguni - album
7. Kabuki - All its pre-OSCA permutations
8. Blackout - album
9. Tasogari Naki - album
10. Toumei Ningen - DO
11. Tegami - album

Variety
1. RAMP - Uh, the live version at RSR'08? =x
2. Mirrorball - JCHI
3. Kingyo no hako - album
4. Shiseikatsu - S&T live
5. OSCA - every single friggin live that exists
6. Kronekodow - again, the live experience at RSR'08 was golden
7. Fukushuu - album
8. Boutoumin - Society of the citizens vol.2
9. SS/AW - album
10. Tukigime hime - album
11. Sake to geko - album
12. Killer tune - RSR'08
13. METRO - album

Far too lazy to do B-sides, hah.
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This seems far too much like hard work to me :/
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Old 2008.11.10, 05:58 AM   #10
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Just copy paste someone else and make some cosmetic changes.

It does not actually take that long to make a list y'know, I thought it would be tough also but I was done in under 15 minutes.

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